Thanks for all the great ideas. If I never fix the problem, I'm certainly learning a lot. Alas, the saga continues. I think I've zapped all of the partitions. At least, when I list them from fdisk, it says there are no partitions, and 100 GB of free space. <div>On 2/27/07, <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <<a href="mailto:edubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com"> edubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Send edubuntu-users mailing list submissions to         <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit         <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to         <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com </a> You can reach the person managing the list at         <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of edubuntu-users digest..." Today's Topics:    1. Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Michael Steigerwald)    2. RE: Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Simon Ruiz)    3. RE: Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Simon Ruiz)    4. Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Bryan Quigley)    5. Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Scott Ledyard) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:15:54 -0600 From: "Michael Steigerwald" <<a href="mailto:mikesteigerwald@gmail.com">mikesteigerwald@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Dual boot (XP) best practice? To: <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com"> edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Message-ID:         <<a href="mailto:12a26f2c0702260915q213748a1m5d4f88460a2a8b7b@mail.gmail.com">12a26f2c0702260915q213748a1m5d4f88460a2a8b7b@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm trying to set up my ThinkPad to boot into edubuntu or XP. I created an NTFS partition after I installed edubuntu, but got a new error when I tried to install Windows. I booted from the XP Pro CD, and it claims that it can find any hard drives to install to. I wouldn't be too disappointed if I had to reformat the whole disk, but I'm surprised that the install CD can't even see the NTFS partition. I know that edubuntu uses the GRUB loader, but I can get into the vanilla (ThinkPad) BIOS just fine. Did I corrupt something I need to use, e.g, Norton, for? TIA for any ideas. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To: <<a href="mailto:Steiger@UMich.edu">Steiger@UMich.edu</a>>,        <<a href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com"> edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID:         <<a href="mailto:1192B5F84F230845B9A793EE5B5BA63F067E4ED3@EXCHANGE.mccsc.edu">1192B5F84F230845B9A793EE5B5BA63F067E4ED3@EXCHANGE.mccsc.edu</a>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1" Windows assumes it will be the only Operating System on the disk, and so if the partition you intend to install it to ISN'T the first partition on the first hard disk, this may be why it won't accept it as an valid install partition. I'm sure there is a way to coax it to work when installing it second, but there are quite a few extra little complications to deal with. I'd suggest starting over and installing Windows first. This is the only way I've ever done it, myself. Best of luck! Sim?n ________________________________ From: <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com"> edubuntu-users-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com</a> on behalf of Michael Steigerwald Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:15 PM To: <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Dual boot (XP) best practice? I'm trying to set up my ThinkPad to boot into edubuntu or XP. I created an NTFS partition after I installed edubuntu, but got a new error when I tried to install Windows. I booted from the XP Pro CD, and it claims that it can find any hard drives to install to. I wouldn't be too disappointed if I had to reformat the whole disk, but I'm surprised that the install CD can't even see the NTFS partition. I know that edubuntu uses the GRUB loader, but I can get into the vanilla (ThinkPad) BIOS just fine. Did I corrupt something I need to use, e.g, Norton, for? TIA for any ideas. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:07:43 -0500 From: "Simon Ruiz" <<a href="mailto:sruiz@mccsc.edu">sruiz@mccsc.edu</a>> Subject: RE: Dual boot (XP) best practice? To: <<a href="mailto:Steiger@UMich.edu"> Steiger@UMich.edu</a>>,        <<a href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID:         <<a href="mailto:1192B5F84F230845B9A793EE5B5BA63F067E4ED7@EXCHANGE.mccsc.edu"> 1192B5F84F230845B9A793EE5B5BA63F067E4ED7@EXCHANGE.mccsc.edu</a>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1" You could probably boot to the Live CD, run "sudo gparted" from the commandline to bring up the partition editor and delete all the partitions. Or perhaps you could "dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda" to zero out the entire hard disk. *shrug* However, if Windows can't see a hard disk right now, I'm not sure what would make it do so, if you're certain the hard disk is plugged into the primary master position. Best of luck! Sim?n ________________________________ From: Michael Steigerwald [mailto:<a href="mailto:mikesteigerwald@gmail.com">mikesteigerwald@gmail.com</a>] Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:52 PM To: Simon Ruiz Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice? I'm pretty sure it must be. I can boot into edubuntu just fine. Is there some way from edubuntu or the CD that I can somehow reformat or wipe the CD to make the Windows CD happy again? TIA On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <<a href="mailto:sruiz@mccsc.edu">sruiz@mccsc.edu</a>> wrote:         Are you sure the hard disk is plugged into the hda (hd0) position on the motherboard? That's all I can think of.         There is nothing I am aware of that any Linux distribution could do to keep the Windows Installation CD from thinking there isn't a hard disk.         Best of luck!         Sim?n         ________________________________         From: Michael Steigerwald [mailto:<a href="mailto:mikesteigerwald@gmail.com">mikesteigerwald@gmail.com</a>]         Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:36 PM         To: Simon Ruiz         Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice?         Actually, that's the conclusion I came to, but I can't even start over until I can figure out why the XP CD thinks there are no hard drives to install to. Is there something in edubuntu I can 'undo' or completely reformat the drive?         On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <<a href="mailto:sruiz@mccsc.edu">sruiz@mccsc.edu</a>> wrote:                Windows assumes it will be the only Operating System on the disk, and so if the partition you intend to install it to ISN'T the first partition on the first hard disk, this may be why it won't accept it as an valid install partition. I'm sure there is a way to coax it to work when installing it second, but there are quite a few extra little complications to deal with.                I'd suggest starting over and installing Windows first. This is the only way I've ever done it, myself.                Best of luck!                Sim?n                ________________________________                From: <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com</a> on behalf of Michael Steigerwald                Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:15 PM                To: <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>                Subject: Dual boot (XP) best practice?                I'm trying to set up my ThinkPad to boot into edubuntu or XP. I created an NTFS partition after I installed edubuntu, but got a new error when I tried to install Windows.                I booted from the XP Pro CD, and it claims that it can find any hard drives to install to. I wouldn't be too disappointed if I had to reformat the whole disk, but I'm surprised that the install CD can't even see the NTFS partition.                I know that edubuntu uses the GRUB loader, but I can get into the vanilla (ThinkPad) BIOS just fine. Did I corrupt something I need to use, e.g, Norton, for?                TIA for any ideas.         --         Michael Steigerwald         4041 12th Ave S.         Minneapolis, MN 55407-3239         <a href="mailto:Steiger@UMich.edu">Steiger@UMich.edu</a>         651.261.2098 -- Michael Steigerwald 4041 12th Ave S. Minneapolis, MN 55407-3239 <a href="mailto:Steiger@UMich.edu">Steiger@UMich.edu</a> 651.261.2098 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:32:45 -0500 From: "Bryan Quigley" <<a href="mailto:gquigs@gmail.com">gquigs@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice? To: "Simon Ruiz" < <a href="mailto:sruiz@mccsc.edu">sruiz@mccsc.edu</a>> Cc: <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>, <a href="mailto:Steiger@umich.edu">Steiger@umich.edu</a> Message-ID:         <<a href="mailto:2e117fdb0702261032h5fb3d793xf625e3ccdbd16f4d@mail.gmail.com">2e117fdb0702261032h5fb3d793xf625e3ccdbd16f4d@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Could it be a SATA drive that Windows doesn't have the drivers for?  That would create the case where edubuntu can see the drive but XP can't. Have you installed XP on this machine before? -Bryan On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <<a href="mailto:sruiz@mccsc.edu">sruiz@mccsc.edu</a>> wrote: > > You could probably boot to the Live CD, run "sudo gparted" from the > commandline to bring up the partition editor and delete all the partitions. > Or perhaps you could "dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda" to zero out the entire > hard disk. *shrug* However, if Windows can't see a hard disk right now, I'm > not sure what would make it do so, if you're certain the hard disk is > plugged into the primary master position. > > Best of luck! > > Sim?n > > ________________________________ > > From: Michael Steigerwald [mailto:<a href="mailto:mikesteigerwald@gmail.com"> mikesteigerwald@gmail.com</a>] > Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:52 PM > To: Simon Ruiz > Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice? > > > I'm pretty sure it must be. I can boot into edubuntu just fine. > > Is there some way from edubuntu or the CD that I can somehow reformat or > wipe the CD to make the Windows CD happy again? > > TIA > > > On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <<a href="mailto:sruiz@mccsc.edu"> sruiz@mccsc.edu</a>> wrote: > >         Are you sure the hard disk is plugged into the hda (hd0) position > on the motherboard? That's all I can think of. > >         There is nothing I am aware of that any Linux distribution could > do to keep the Windows Installation CD from thinking there isn't a hard > disk. > >         Best of luck! > >         Sim?n > >         ________________________________ > >         From: Michael Steigerwald [mailto:<a href="mailto:mikesteigerwald@gmail.com">mikesteigerwald@gmail.com</a>] >         Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:36 PM >         To: Simon Ruiz >         Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice? > > >         Actually, that's the conclusion I came to, but I can't even start > over until I can figure out why the XP CD thinks there are no hard drives to > install to. Is there something in edubuntu I can 'undo' or completely > reformat the drive? > > >         On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <<a href="mailto:sruiz@mccsc.edu">sruiz@mccsc.edu</a>> wrote: > >                Windows assumes it will be the only Operating System on the > disk, and so if the partition you intend to install it to ISN'T the first > partition on the first hard disk, this may be why it won't accept it as an > valid install partition. I'm sure there is a way to coax it to work when > installing it second, but there are quite a few extra little complications > to deal with. > >                I'd suggest starting over and installing Windows first. > This is the only way I've ever done it, myself. > >                Best of luck! > >                Sim?n > >                ________________________________ > >                From: <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com"> edubuntu-users-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com</a> on behalf of > Michael Steigerwald >                Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:15 PM >                To: <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com </a> >                Subject: Dual boot (XP) best practice? > > >                I'm trying to set up my ThinkPad to boot into edubuntu or > XP. I created an NTFS partition after I installed edubuntu, but got a new > error when I tried to install Windows. > >                I booted from the XP Pro CD, and it claims that it can find > any hard drives to install to. I wouldn't be too disappointed if I had to > reformat the whole disk, but I'm surprised that the install CD can't even > see the NTFS partition. > >                I know that edubuntu uses the GRUB loader, but I can get > into the vanilla (ThinkPad) BIOS just fine. Did I corrupt something I need > to use, e.g, Norton, for? > >                TIA for any ideas. > > > > > >         -- >         Michael Steigerwald >         4041 12th Ave S. >         Minneapolis, MN 55407-3239 >         <a href="mailto:Steiger@UMich.edu">Steiger@UMich.edu</a> >         651.261.2098 > > > > > > -- > Michael Steigerwald > 4041 12th Ave S. > Minneapolis, MN 55407-3239 > <a href="mailto:Steiger@UMich.edu">Steiger@UMich.edu</a> > 651.261.2098 > > -- > edubuntu-users mailing list > <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com </a> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users</a> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just zap all partitions and reboot from the Win CD to reinstall. You don't have to establish an NTFS partition. Windows doesn't care if the disk is blank. It just doesn't want active partitions. BTW, a handy, fast booting CD to have around is GParted all by itself. Never think about using Partition Magic again. It's available at <a href="http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php">http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php</a> Scott -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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