Edubuntu 7.10 - A Released Debacle and a Practice in Failure

[Alfred Nutile]

I could put up a drupal site to more easily (??) handle the data for us
to collect as How to's problems etc arise.
Maybe the Edu site is fine as well.

On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 23:12 -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:14:23AM -1000, R. Scott Belford wrote:
> > We can't say that 7.10 built on the functionality of 7.04 - it actually 
> > regressed.  Now, if you are upgrading from 7.04, I guess that you can 
> > get away with that claim since new installations don't work for most, 
> > but upgrades from 7.04 seem to mask the bugs.  We *definitely* cannot be 
> > making the claim that "Thin client deployments offers clients a lower 
> > TCO (total cost of ownership), simpler installation and easier 
> > maintenance than typical IT deployments".  The K12LTSP can, Debian-edu 
> > can, but Edubuntu has absolutely no right.  We can't even support the 
> > same older clients used by 7.04 (without hacking an lts.conf file).
> 
> I'm not running Gutsy in production yet (so my comments may be of
> little value), but I installed a fresh 7.10 Edubuntu and the clients
> worked the first time.  I was impressed at how easy it worked
> considering how little I knew about LTSP.
> 
> Now, it took me a few days to mess with things to get some old
> 1999-2000 iMacs to boot.  And I needed a little help from the list for
> a few items, but overall it worked amazingly well.
> 
> And I've had kids use the clients and they seem very happy.
> 
> It does seem (from watching the list) like some serious problems show
> up under loaded conditions with some applications, but I have not been
> in that situation yet.
> 
> My biggest frustration is finding items on the wiki.  Seems like
> there's a lot of good information available, but I never found an easy
> way to scan the wiki pages.  I miss good old manuals.  With chapters
> and sections, logically organized.  Printed, too.
> 
> I also wish I could find an up-to-date list of schools using LTSP,
> too, and a description of the experience moving to LTSP, how it's
> helped or not, and statements of cost savings.  I have found trying to
> explain LTSP to others that the first question they ask is who else is
> using it.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bill Moseley
> moseley at hank.org
> 
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