My ideas for Ubuntu 10.10 (maverick)

[Veli-Matti Lintu]

Hi,

Luckily most of the closed services I have to deal with either support
standard protocols or support none at all. One of the reasons schools
here are using the closed services is the lack of knowledge on open
source solutions and how to run them. The protocols I listed are used
both in open source applications and closed services, so the protocols
themselves won't be doing the choice.

There's been talk about writing instructions or meta-packages for web
applications that are hard to package. IMO, writing integration
tutorials is definitely needed to get the most out of central user
database. The easier it is to run open source solutions, less there is
need for bad behaving closed services.

Veli-Matti

ke, 2010-04-21 kello 09:34 -0500, Dale Beams kirjoitti:
> In regards to protocols & applications.  I noticed that some of the
> web apps listed may be a concern for vendor lock in and would like to
> suggest that whatever direction Edubuntu goes, that an open standard,
> protocol, and stand alone web apps (not dependent upon some mega
> company) remain an available option.  Tyeing any protocol into
> Edubuntu, that has vendor lock in is not wise imho.  Having open
> standards is.
> 
> 
> I say this because of a recent hiccup with one of the vendors listed
> that caused an outage of e-mail for a school for about 8 hours.  When
> requesting a explanation, the vendor gave none, nor responded.
> 
> 
> 
> Dale
> 
> 
> > Subject: Re: My ideas for Ubuntu 10.10 (maverick)
> > From: veli-matti.lintu at opinsys.fi
> > To: edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:18:37 +0300
> > 
> > ma, 2010-04-19 kello 18:03 +0200, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
> > kirjoitti:
> > 
> > > Here are my ideas so far, they might not all be good for the next
> or 
> > > even any release, but it's what I have in my list so far:
> > 
> > > 11. OpenLDAP(+kerberos?)
> > > 
> > > There's been quite a few failed attempts at getting turn-key 
> > > authentication services in Ubuntu/Edubuntu. There are some
> renewed 
> > > efforts into this and we could probably include some scripts in
> the 
> > > edubuntu scripts branch if it isn't packagable.
> > 
> > We are working on better LDAP/kerberos setup automation and user
> > management tools as I mentioned last week. Our primary goal is to
> extend
> > kerberos single-sign-on to web applications that can be hosted
> anywhere
> > to integrate the web applications to the desktop experience. For
> this
> > there are quite a few protocols like CAS/OpenID/OAuth/SAML that can
> be
> > used to authenticate Moodle/Mediawiki/Zimbra/GoogleApps/Elgg and
> other
> > web applications used in schools over here.
> > 
> > I read through quite a few of the old blueprints in Launchpad and
> > collected them in a table here. Unfortunately most of the blueprints
> > have been just collecting dust for years. There's also an overview
> image
> > of our authentication setups:
> > 
> > http://www.opinsys.fi/en/itch-for-better-user-management-in-ubuntu
> > 
> > 
> > One of the main differences in our new tools compared to old plans
> is
> > the ability to handle many school districts with many schools within
> a
> > single installation. This supports our model where every school has
> > their own people taking care of user accounts, but they necessarily
> > don't even know what LDAP is.
> > 
> > The plan was to have the code out by now, but it'll still take some
> days
> > before we get to that. This is something that we'll be working on
> during
> > the next months and we can spend time on getting things in Ubuntu
> also.
> > 
> > 
> > As I've been going through the setup process, I've been writing in
> the
> > blog about it:
> > 
> > http://www.opinsys.fi/en/setting-up-openldap-on-ubuntu-10-04-alpha2
> > 
> > 
> > Veli-Matti
> > 
> > 
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