EC Request for Consideration: WikiSite and current wiki edit projects

[Ace Suares]

Hi,

As told before, I have no wish to keep WikiSite for real content. It was
just needed (and is needed) for a good cleanup. I agree to - in the end
- only use it for includes etc.

> /Edubuntu/Meeting/<year>/<date>

I think it's *very* much work to move the current structure (/YYYYMMDD)
to /YYYY/MM/DD) and I am not willing to take up that task. It serves no
purpose other then to align with the Mobile Team, which is in no means a
special team where others should align too.

So I am willing to move the Meeting substructure one level up, which
means leaving out WikiSite, but that's it, if some one want to rename
all the pages to YYYY/MMDD than feel free!

>  * the Archive page would just move it to /Edubuntu/Meeting/Archive

agree

>  * /Edubuntu/Meeting have the cool <<Navigation(children)>> (thanks
> Ace for that) but not include every log inline.

agree on the inline logs.


> However, I think Tasks, Teams, Gatherings, Photo, Video, and
> GrowEdubuntu belong somewhere else. I think that it is important the
> wiki.ubuntu.com be kept as a development wiki. I'm not sure where

Moving these things FROM the wiki so the wiki will be a pure development
wiki is IMHO a bit too early. I suggest that I move on to clean up the
website AFTER the clean up of the wiki as to not drown in non-critical
gibberish. So, I can agree with moving these things OFF the wiki when we
are restructuring the website. For now, I propose they stay where they
are (in WikiSite). No sense in moving them when they are gonna be
removed anyway.

> might be to simply put together a sitemap of the current wiki pages. I

It's easy: Just got to https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Edubunt
or do a title search on Edubuntu.

> know there are ~ 300 pages, but I think it would help us organize, and
> help Ace continue his work, if we knew what structure was already out
> there. We can then decide what we want to keep, what we can toss, and
> where new pages (like Gatherings, Photo, and Video) should reside. I
> think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Wiki/SiteMap is a start on
> something like that.


I think that you are making the procedure much too complicated, and also
that you are micromanaging me.

I did several proposals where i asked you to comment on pages that might
be deleted, but you (or anyone else) never answered.

If you really think you need to manage all steps that I do, then I am
definetely resigning as of now. I welcome the 'big picture' ideas but
what use is it to make a list of all pages (it's already there and I
looked through it a dozen times) and then wait for you (or EC) to decide
what needs to go, if this takes another month or two.

Looka here:
https://wiki.edubuntu.org/CategoryEdubuntuProposedForRemoval
It's up there since July 24.

Hey, Jordan, I know, it's hard to get an overview of the whole Wiki.
Trust me, I spend 40 or more hours looking through the wiki and
categorizing stuff and forming ideas about how to deal with it. I
outlined the ideas on several occasions. No matter what I do, you want
it done differently. This ain't working.

* I agree on removing the WikiSite (at least as a final step in the
cleanup process).
* I agree on drawing your (EC) attention to pages I want to move or
delete where there is any doubt.
* I agree on reporting on what I deleted or moved so you can check and
make corrections (after the fact, not beforehand).

I don't know what else I can do to make you feel that you can leave that
task to someone else (i.e. me).

If you can't delegate the task, then I might as well stop working on it
and wait until you find someone who wants to do the work your way.

I am by no means trying to make this personal but I am outraged that a
task that would take me three weeks at most has now evolved into a
discussion of months.

Please come up with a good 'greater picture' and let me do the work. I
think we have most of the greater picture already. Renaming all the
meeting logs is just not constructive. Moving stuff off the wiki but we
haven't' restructured the website is counterproductive. What else is
there that needs to be addressed?

Cheers,
ace

PS Sorry to mingle in EC affairs.


> 
> -Jordan
>