Wiki cleanup and Negative feedback

Jordan Mantha laserjock at ubuntu.com
Sun Sep 6 02:42:30 UTC 2009


On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Ace Suares<ace at suares.an> wrote:
>
> Dear devels,
>
> In my efforts to clean up the wiki, I did the following:
>
> - moved all Meeting Logs from /MeetingLogs/Edubuntu_year-mm-dd to
> /Edubuntu/WikiSite/Meeting/Logs/year-mm-dd
> - merged everything in /Edubuntu/WikiSite/Meeting/Records with those
>

First of all, thanks for the desire to get the wiki cleaned up, it
really is a big task that's not always clear and one that is sorely
needed.

That said, I have two main issues with this *particular* set of
changes. The first issue is that I don't know why the current place
for the logs is a problem. We really shouldn't be moving things unless
there is a clear and compelling reason to do so. I'm not against all
wiki page moving and deletion, but in this case I just don't see a
good reason to do it. The /MeetingLogs/ namespace was set up as an
Ubuntu project-wide place to put logs by the Ubuntu Scribes team, and
if, as you say, the logs are largely archival, what is the reason for
moving them? The meeting logs were the one area of the Edubuntu wiki
that I thought *didn't* need cleanup.

The second issue is where they got moved to. My understanding was that
the Edubuntu/WikiSite/ namespace was only going to be utilized for
things like headers, includes, and planning (cleanup, etc.) for the
wiki. That is, for development of the Edubuntu wiki. I don't see why
wiki pages outside of that should use /WikiSite/ . If pages need to go
there on a temporary basis in order to make a clean sweep of some area
(say Edubuntu/Development/ ) fine, but we putting all Edubuntu wiki
pages under Edubuntu/WikiSite/ is confusing, can cause breakage, and
makes the URL needlessly long.

I would rather see the meeting log changes reverted completely.
Redirects will only make the wiki a further mess, IMO. Again, let me
reiterate that I do appreciate Aces' work on the wiki and hope this is
just a little bump in the road towards making the Edubuntu wiki rock
again.

-Jordan




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