edubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 24, Issue 21
David Ally
david_ally at yahoo.com
Mon May 28 12:50:28 UTC 2007
Hi Theresa,
Do not touch the ntfs partition, just make sure you create a small partition mounted on /boot when you create the partition for your new edubuntu installation apart from all other partitions, the size of /boot can be around 120mb. Though not always required but because you might not have set your / partition with a bootable flag, it sometimes confuses grub as i have noticed in the past.
All other things being equal, you should have a complete installation. Good luck!
David
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Today's Topics:
1. Edubuntu Installation / Dual Boot Problem (Theresa)
2. Re: Edubuntu Installation / Dual Boot Problem (john )
3. Re: Edubuntu Installation / Dual Boot Problem (Theresa)
4. Re: Edubuntu Installation / Dual Boot Problem (Gavin McCullagh)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 19:41:20 +0200
From: Theresa <rockprinzess at gmail.com>
Subject: Edubuntu Installation / Dual Boot Problem
To: edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <200705271941.20103.rockprinzess at gmail.com>
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Hello all,
I've been lurking on this mailing list for quite a while. As you may, or may
not, already know I've been doing this Edubuntu project for the past 4 months
in my local highschool for my bachelor degree. So far so good, everything
works like a treat with Edubuntu Edgy.
Now the school (the network admin) asked me to setup/install Edubuntu Feisty
on a local machine. The only condition is that Windows XP will still be
available, I've read lots of wikis and peoples reactions on dual boot, so I
didn't consider it much of a problem.
I began installing Edubuntu Feisty from the Desktop CD, in the partition menu
I chose
sda1 (being the windows xp parition) ..... I didn't touch this. it's NTFS
format
sda2 (will be the linux partition) ......I think this was around 5gb as EXT3
is my / partition
sda3 ...700mb as my SWAP partition
sda4 ..the rest of it probably around 15GB...EXT3 again as my /home partition
The installation aborted at 94% prompted by the following error message
"The execution of <<grub install (hd0) >> has failed. This is a serious
problem" ... something along these lines.
At home I hooked up on IRC #edubuntu to get some answers to my problem.
So far I've tried
sudo grub
find /media/disk-1/boot/grub/stage1
---> this caused: Error15: File not found
I've also tried sudo grub-install /dev/sda2
prompted by "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."
I really don't know what to do right now. Is it impossible to install Edubuntu
Feisty on that machine? What caused these errors or why won't Grub install?!
I'll appreciate ANY advice.
Thank you in advance,
Theresa
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 11:50:09 -0700
From: "john " <lists.john at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Edubuntu Installation / Dual Boot Problem
To: rockprinzess at gmail.com
Cc: edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
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Hi Theresa,
If grub failed to install then you won't have any luck running
commands with grub I suspect. Here's a couple of questions:
Where did you choose to install grub?
Did you make your / partition bootable (I assume that's where the
Linux kernel is since you didn't mention a seperate boot partition)?
Grub will probably want to over-write the windows boot partition,
with it's own info... is that the way you chose to install it?
In short, a little more info please.
John
On 5/27/07, Theresa <rockprinzess at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I've been lurking on this mailing list for quite a while. As you may, or may
> not, already know I've been doing this Edubuntu project for the past 4 months
> in my local highschool for my bachelor degree. So far so good, everything
> works like a treat with Edubuntu Edgy.
> Now the school (the network admin) asked me to setup/install Edubuntu Feisty
> on a local machine. The only condition is that Windows XP will still be
> available, I've read lots of wikis and peoples reactions on dual boot, so I
> didn't consider it much of a problem.
> I began installing Edubuntu Feisty from the Desktop CD, in the partition menu
> I chose
>
> sda1 (being the windows xp parition) ..... I didn't touch this. it's NTFS
> format
> sda2 (will be the linux partition) ......I think this was around 5gb as EXT3
> is my / partition
> sda3 ...700mb as my SWAP partition
> sda4 ..the rest of it probably around 15GB...EXT3 again as my /home partition
>
> The installation aborted at 94% prompted by the following error message
>
> "The execution of <<grub install (hd0) >> has failed. This is a serious
> problem" ... something along these lines.
>
> At home I hooked up on IRC #edubuntu to get some answers to my problem.
> So far I've tried
>
> sudo grub
> find /media/disk-1/boot/grub/stage1
> ---> this caused: Error15: File not found
>
> I've also tried sudo grub-install /dev/sda2
> prompted by "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."
>
> I really don't know what to do right now. Is it impossible to install Edubuntu
> Feisty on that machine? What caused these errors or why won't Grub install?!
>
> I'll appreciate ANY advice.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Theresa
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 21:57:04 +0200
From: Theresa <rockprinzess at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Edubuntu Installation / Dual Boot Problem
To: "john " <lists.john at gmail.com>
Cc: edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <200705272157.05206.rockprinzess at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi John,
ohh actually I thought grub would install itself into /
Oh yeah I think there's my problem that I didn't actually made a
seperate /boot partition, do you think that adding a separate /boot partition
might actually solve my problem?!
The integrated gparted didn't let me make my / parition bootable, I've never
used the desktop cds before to install ubuntu (only the alternate cds), so I
have no idea how to make it bootable?
Does this mean the windows boot partition will be gone, once grub overwrites
it? Does this mean windows will be no more and I'll have to re-install
windows xp?
I'm sorry, but I've never had a dual-boot installation before!
Cheers for your help!
Theresa
Am Sonntag, 27. Mai 2007 schrieb john:
> Hi Theresa,
>
> If grub failed to install then you won't have any luck running
> commands with grub I suspect. Here's a couple of questions:
>
> Where did you choose to install grub?
>
> Did you make your / partition bootable (I assume that's where the
> Linux kernel is since you didn't mention a seperate boot partition)?
>
> Grub will probably want to over-write the windows boot partition,
> with it's own info... is that the way you chose to install it?
>
> In short, a little more info please.
>
> John
>
> On 5/27/07, Theresa <rockprinzess at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I've been lurking on this mailing list for quite a while. As you may, or
> > may not, already know I've been doing this Edubuntu project for the past
> > 4 months in my local highschool for my bachelor degree. So far so good,
> > everything works like a treat with Edubuntu Edgy.
> > Now the school (the network admin) asked me to setup/install Edubuntu
> > Feisty on a local machine. The only condition is that Windows XP will
> > still be available, I've read lots of wikis and peoples reactions on dual
> > boot, so I didn't consider it much of a problem.
> > I began installing Edubuntu Feisty from the Desktop CD, in the partition
> > menu I chose
> >
> > sda1 (being the windows xp parition) ..... I didn't touch this. it's NTFS
> > format
> > sda2 (will be the linux partition) ......I think this was around 5gb as
> > EXT3 is my / partition
> > sda3 ...700mb as my SWAP partition
> > sda4 ..the rest of it probably around 15GB...EXT3 again as my /home
> > partition
> >
> > The installation aborted at 94% prompted by the following error message
> >
> > "The execution of <<grub install (hd0) >> has failed. This is a serious
> > problem" ... something along these lines.
> >
> > At home I hooked up on IRC #edubuntu to get some answers to my problem.
> > So far I've tried
> >
> > sudo grub
> > find /media/disk-1/boot/grub/stage1
> > ---> this caused: Error15: File not found
> >
> > I've also tried sudo grub-install /dev/sda2
> > prompted by "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."
> >
> > I really don't know what to do right now. Is it impossible to install
> > Edubuntu Feisty on that machine? What caused these errors or why won't
> > Grub install?!
> >
> > I'll appreciate ANY advice.
> >
> > Thank you in advance,
> >
> > Theresa
> >
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 09:48:28 +0100
From: Gavin McCullagh <gmccullagh at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Edubuntu Installation / Dual Boot Problem
To: edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <20070528084828.GA25959 at gmail.com>
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Hi,
On Sun, 27 May 2007, Theresa wrote:
> sda1 (being the windows xp parition) ..... I didn't touch this. it's NTFS format
> sda2 (will be the linux partition) ......I think this was around 5gb as EXT3 is my / partition
> sda3 ...700mb as my SWAP partition
> sda4 ..the rest of it probably around 15GB...EXT3 again as my /home partition
> The installation aborted at 94% prompted by the following error message
>
> "The execution of <<grub install (hd0) >> has failed. This is a serious
> problem" ... something along these lines.
That's an unusual error alright. Just so we're clear, in this case grub is
almost certainly (unless you told it otherwise) installing it's boot loader
into the Master Boot Record of the disk, ie not into sda2 but into sda0, a
small chunk at the start of the disk. Grub (the package) should already be
installed into /dev/sda2 by this point.
> sudo grub
> find /media/disk-1/boot/grub/stage1
> ---> this caused: Error15: File not found
So this is telling you that /boot/grub/stage1 isn't present. On my local
computer you can see that it is:
gavinmc at boing:~$ ls -l /boot/grub/stage*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 2007-05-08 11:26 /boot/grub/stage1
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 106228 2007-05-08 11:26 /boot/grub/stage2
> I've also tried sudo grub-install /dev/sda2
> prompted by "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."
Installing the boot-loader into sda2 is probably not what you want -- you
probably just want to tell it /dev/sda or hd0. However that's not the
reason it's failing.
Your problem is that for some reason stage1 is not present as grub (the
package, as opposed to the boot-loader) didn't install onto /dev/sda2
correctly. Because stage1 isn't there, the boot-loader then can't be
installed. You should check there is disk space available (though 5GB
should be more than enough). You can reinstall grub by hand by going to a
command line and doing:
1. Pop in the _server_ install CD.
2. Select rescue mode.
3. Follow the prompts, choosing /dev/sda2 as your root.
4. When you reach a command line type:
apt-get install --reinstall grub
and see what happens. If you get an error, let us know what it is.
I see someone else has posted a solution to a similar problem in the forums
here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297261
It's not clear why the original grub install failed but I guess that's the
source of the original problem. If you have time to starte the install
again, it would be interesting to know if it repeats.
> I really don't know what to do right now. Is it impossible to install Edubuntu
> Feisty on that machine? What caused these errors or why won't Grub install?!
It should be possible on any machine. You shouldn't need a /boot partition
to achieve this.
Gavin
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