Some testing

Sat Oct 21 09:11:15 UTC 2006

hi,
Am Freitag, den 20.10.2006, 22:44 +0200 schrieb Jonathan Carter:

> 1. Installer warns that it could not use a network card for dhcpd, and
> that it should be manually edited. I think this is a result of my pc
> getting an ip address from the network that isn't in the default
> settings range. I think it's a bit strange that a server install seeks a
> dhcp address. I think that it would be better to ask the user if they'd
> like to run a dhcp client or not, even though we'd ideally like as few
> questions as possible.
did you use a machine with two NICs ? we default to it now, the first
NIC *tries* to configure with dhcp, if there is no response in time it
will fall back to what you are used to (manual static setup)
the second NIC will be automatically used for the thin client network,
the dhcp server will only bind to this interface so the other one can be
dhcp client on another network or have a static ip as defined through
the test in the beginning.
if you have more than two NICs it will give you a selection list for the
thin client sided interface.
if you have only one NIC or a NIC thats configured to the address we
want to use for the ltsp network (some address of the 192.168.0. range),
it will warn you.

> 
> 2. The 'Education' menu has lost it's icon.
did you file a bug ?
> 
> 4. Under games, Gcompris crashes horribly, it even logs me out of my
> gnome-session. I've asked in #edubuntu for testing of newer edgy builds,
> and it is reported to work fine by one person who is running a more
> updated version of edgy. Output of running gcompris >& in a terminal
> just before it closes my session:
> """ """
could you try running it with -x from a terminal ? 
> 
> All other games work fine. GCompris administration also runs fine.
> 
> As a side-note, after the last GCompris crash, my gnome desktop
> wallpaper is missing, and right-clicking on the desktop doesn't produce
> any results. After more testing, this seem to happen after some of the
> gcompris crashes, and sometimes not. 
if your wallpaper is missing that indicates a broken nautilus

> 6. Under the Internet menu, everything works fine except Evolution. When
> I open Evolution I get a message that an unknown CORBA exception has
> occured (IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0) (I think that the omg error
> is a but funny). It warns that I might loose some of my old data, but
> this is the first time that evolution is run on this fresh system. The
> firefox homepage contains the correct version, and all the data is still
> correct and relevant. 
please file bugs
> 
> 7. Under Office, we see Evolution again. Is it intentional to have
> Evolution under two different menu items? 
yep
> 12. Everything under System -> Administration works as expected.
> Although, d-i is clever enough to disallow you to use admin as a
> username, while the Users and Groups tool does allow you. I think it
> would be good to change the tool to disallow admin creation too, but
> that's a bug and one for Feisty.
please file it :)
> 
> 14. So that was the boring part, now to LTSP... I simply set my IP
> address to be in the 192.168.0.0 network and dhcpd started fine. I
> see /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf is still installed, some users might find it
> confusing having two dhcpd.conf's. We might have to highlight that the
> dhcpd.conf file is in /etc/ltsp
ltsp manager should make it obsolete to edit config files in feisty, but
indeed, it should be pointed out more in the docs ... since we use the
default dhcpd package i cant make the config file it supplies go away :)
> 
> 15. Fired up a thin client, PXE works fine, haven't tested etherboot
> yet. Usplash disappears for less than a second displaying an error about
> udev: "udevd-event[1732]: run_program:  /dev/null failed, no such file
> or directory". I had to reboot the client multiple times to get the full
> error down, about once every three reboots, it didn't show the message.
note that the clients log to the servers syslog by default now, please
check if there are traces of errors (even though udev comes up before
logging there might be subsequent errors)
> 
> As a side-note, the server's disk seems to work quite hard with even one
> client booting. It might be beneficial in future versions of LTSP to
> make some tweaks so that the NFS disk reads will be cached in RAM more
> aggresively.
noted .... a whishlist bug against ltsp would be nice, so i have a
reminder
> 
> 16. Attempted logging in as my first user, I was kicked back to LDM, I
> suspect that I still have to run ltsp-update-sshkeys after changing my
> IP address, although I thought for some reason that this is not
> necassary anymore.
ltsp-update-sshkeys is run every time an interface comes up via ifup,
its more likely you were bitten by https://launchpad.net/bugs/66808
> 
> 17. When logging in for the first time, the sound just worked, great!
> But I was presented immediately with a bug reporting tool, it found a
> problem in /usr/libexec/evolution-alarm-notify. It might be caused by me
> still being logged in at the server (oops). Runnign Gcompris on the thin
> client works fine though. Further on everything worked as it worked on
> the server. 
bugs please :)
> 
> 18. Added the user to the 'fuse' group, and logged out and back in, and
> inserted a usb flash disk. The device was on my desktop, but when I
> double-clicked on it, nothing happened and the desktop became
> non-responsive. 
that shouldnt happen and is likely related to your udev problem in the
beginning, please file a bug ad attach /var/log/messages
and /var/log/syslog for the time that happened

> 19. It's great to see a defualt lts.conf file, but it would be nice to
> see some examples in it.
its hidden in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/ i plan
to make a ltsp-docs package for feisty you can just install on the
server
> 
> 20. LTSP in Ubuntu 6.10 looks great. It feels much, much more mature
> than it did in the last two releases. I'm very happy with it, although
> LDM could do with a nicer Edubuntu theme, and it could be a little more
> 'friendly' too.
the cheap theme is a tradeoff for network speed, fullscreen pics load
longer ... but ldms theme engine should see an overhaul in feisty...
> 
> 21. I'm not sure that the session manager in LDM works as expected, the
> choices it currently gives me is: Default, gnome-session and metacity.
> Choosing metacity doesn't work. I will test this more thoroughly
> tomorrow (after installing fluxbox or xfce on the server)
it works fine here with xfce and icewm, please file a bug about the
metacity thing.
> 
> 22. After changing the language, I could not log in anymore, I just got
> kicked back to LDM. I will also test this more thoroughly tomorrow.
please do, it works here ...
> 
> More information and updates on some of the issues will be available
> tomorrow. Overall, Edubuntu has matured a lot in this release, mostly
> due to improvements in LTSP. If I haven't managed to break my LTSP
> already, I could send some more information on memory usage on the thin
> client. Although I can confirm that swap over NBD works out of the box.
> Wow :)
Thanks for all the testing, you really rock !

ciao
	oli
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