[Fwd: Re: Edubuntu: Gallium vs. Kalzium]

[Oliver Grawert]

hi,

i'm attaching an answer i send to one of the ~300 rant mails i got the
last few days about that issue, that might clarify that a bit. (note
that this mail is one of the morte ffiendly ones)

we could go on shipping kdeedu, but surely there had to change a lot: 
a) split up the 32MB big package into smaller ones 
b) make it depend on plain QT instead of the kdelibs, make it ship its
own help docs so we dont have to pull in all the kde help for one app
(which in turn depend on 10's of MBs of unused KDE stuff we are forced
to ship/install)
c) make the language packs smaller (split them or something like that)
indeed thats rather a problem on the (k,ed)ubuntu side and not upstream

if it were possible for us to have as small packages as possible with as
less dependencies as possible, so pulling in kdeedu wouldnt eat up >=
~100MB on the CD for us it would surely ease a lot here.

please note as well that gallium is a community project it is *not* an
official edubuntu project (even though i'd include it on the CD if it
would give us the same featureset kalzium does)

please also dont discourage people working on a GNOME based edu set of
apps gnome is lacking a lot here so let them do what they want, even
though *my* ideal world would have desktop independent apps that can be
easily shared between desktop environments i.e. have a look at the
ubiquity installer or hwdb-gui in ubuntu, its possible to write apps in
a way that you can use them in either desktop environment with their own
dedicated frontend and as i understood gallium should work that way ...

but sadly, according to the tone all these mails hitting my inbox the
last week had there is no easy way getting both worlds together...
if people start threatening me personally for something like that (i'm
not even involved with gallium) i think we still have to go a long long
way to get both worlds together. 
i was voting for having kdeedu in edubuntu from the beginning and was
fighting for having the best of both worlds on our CD (even though i
moan about every app i have to drop with every new release due to the
space constraints this gives us) but that mail attack from the kde side
against me personally (about a tech problem we try to solve) starts
really making me reconsider my opinion here.

... very disappointed ...

ciao
	oli
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