Agenda Items for Edubuntu Summit
Hilton Theunissen
hilton at shuttleworthfoundation.org
Fri Jun 17 14:14:04 UTC 2005
Edward Holcroft wrote:
> Hi list
>
>
> This is not the first time I have seen a reference to Skubuntu
> (Jonathan and Hilton's presentation mentioned below).
Skubuntu was built for tuXlabs(built by the tuXlab team), we simply used
a nice,stable distro and customised it to work for tuXlabs. Our schools
do not have Internet thus have compiled extra CD's/DVD with content(some
propriety) as per your idea/request.
Can someone on
> the list possibly explain what Skubuntu is and its relationship to
> Edubuntu? I have inquired about this before, to no avail and it's
> really niggling me.
Well, for now tuXlabs and Edubuntu shares the same vision, the use of
open source software in a school environment. We have initiated an open
source advocasy/lobby Program(a.k.a tuXlabs) to prove our beliefs during
2003. We used K12ltsp.org(customised for tuXlabs with addons) in 129
schools and experienced a few teething problems. After testing Ubuntu
with tuXlab customisation we have successfully deployed "Skubuntu" in 12
tuXlab partner schools. During the summit we will present the work done
to date on Skubuntu and how that works for tuXlabs. We hope we all,
Edubuntu members, will gain learnings and ideas from our experiences.
Skubuntu will continue to grow but will rely on the development of
Edubuntu for cool features.
>
> Since I'll regrettably not be able to attend the summit, I'd also like
> to make a suggestion around the package selection agenda item for
> Edubuntu. In my view Edubuntu should not be striving to be a single CD
> distro like Ubuntu. Perhaps CD1 could be the basic setup and packages,
> but there MUST be an option to download full additional CDs. For me,
> experience working in the most remote of poor schools shows that there
> is no immediate chance of connectivity to download some of the other
> cool, yet essential stuff out there. I would like to see something like
> a five CD set (or more) from which the install routine asks which CDs
> you have available. There should also be a seamless way for users to
> add CDs to their system that they acquire at a some later date after
> the initial installation.
Great idea and we have incorporated this into Skubuntu based on the
discussion we had at Linuxworld SA.
>
> How about the inclusion of educational content. Funding has just been
> acquired to convert the Mindset (Learnthings) content to an open
> platform. This material (published under a Creative Commons License)
> would be ideally placed for inclusion in "the BIG version" of Edubuntu.
> Or perhaps a tool could be included in Edubuntu that would allow for
> the seamless integration of this content if for some reason it cannot
> be shipped as part of "the BIG version". In Africa free educational
> content remains a challenge - some of you may have witnessed the spat
> around content on the FOSS list last year - and it'd be great if
> Edubuntu could be the first free distro to address this.
Mindset for now is possibly a African/SA discussion, they have great
content but propriety licensing issues. I wish to applaud them for
making the right decision to explore real the open
source/content/licensing route.
Ed, please mail me offline for additional information.
>
> On "LTSP by default" - why have anything at all by default? All you
> need is an installation routine that asks the user what kind of machine
> they are setting - a la K12LTSP. Same for education admin tools - don't
> have a default - ask the installer which one they want as the default,
> and allow an option to install the works.
>
> These options of course depend on a slick, intuitive installer. Let's
> see Edubuntu please not offer offer the same horrible text-based
> installer as Ubuntu. What we want for schools is something like the GUI
> installer in Fedora or the beautiful Mandriva installer: one that makes
> custom partitioning self-evident and the installation a pleasure rather
> than a technical challenge.
>
> cheers
> ed
> On 17 Jun 2005, at 11:14 AM, Jane Weideman wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> It is time to formalise the Agenda for the Edubuntu Summit which starts
>> in just 2 weeks time!
>>
>> I have been accumulating all the agenda suggestions I have received so
>> far and have listed them below.
>>
>> Please review this list, and feel free to offer additional topics, or
>> suggestions, as well as any relevant input to the already listed topics.
>>
>> Please also give through to the schedule sequence and discussion
>> dependencies, and which topics should be addressed first etc.
>>
>> We will start with registration and introductions on the Friday, but
>> should not schedule any major topics before the Saturday morning (IMO).
>>
>> Available Time and proposed Format:
>> * Friday *
>> 16:00 - 17:00 - Registration and introductions
>> 17:30 - 18:30 - Welcome (Mark Shuttleworth & Jane Weideman)
>> 19:00 - Dinner
>>
>> * Saturday *
>> 09:00 - 09:30
>>
>> _____
>>
>> Agenda Items for Edubuntu Summit
>>
>> 1-3 July 2005, London
>>
>>
>> * Skubuntu presentation by Jonathan Carter (and Hilton Theunissen)
>>
>> * Package Selection and Evaluation – how are packages selected and
>> evaluated ? Should involve input from the educators who are
>> targetted to use the packages (Paul Flint).
>>
>> * We need to start looking at the various packages available and
>> evaluating them, as well as classifying them in 3-4 categories
>> such as Junior Primary (6-8), Senior Primary (9-11), Junior High
>> (12-14) and Senior High (15-17) etc.
>>
>> * This process of evaluation is critical as this is the
>> most discussed need for the educational change agent.
>> Rather than looking for packages and evaluating
>> them, it would be wiser and more effective to build a
>> mechanism that
>> allows all the educators out there to evaluate packages
>> and our job
>> becomes tabulating and displaying the evaluations. This
>> is a paramount
>> importance to the educational community, basically
>> because all they really
>> do is to evaluate, it is the stuff of their daily lives
>> (ever get a bad
>> grade? :^). Essentially, no evaluation methodology, no
>> Edubuntu.
>>
>> What we may need is a mechanism similar to what has been
>> built to evaluate
>> installs. I talked some about this and I feel that this
>> evaluation
>> capability should be somewhat user intrusive, but should
>> allow three
>> general goals:
>>
>> 1. You can tell it to buzz-off and you never see it
>> again.
>> 2. You can tell it what you think on a casual user
>> basis.
>> 3. You can get seriously medieval.
>>
>> The result can be a successful evaluation which is
>> communicated in the
>> same way as the install evaluations. The same mechanism
>> is used (actually
>> re-used :^), to get this information back to the
>> evaluation process which
>> in turn updates the evaluation web site (and
>> yadda-yadda).
>>
>> * Edubuntu Logo and Branding – select and agree on logos to be
>> used (get more final images and graphic files from Hennie)
>>
>> * Edubuntu Documentation (speak to Jerome (jsgotangco))
>>
>> * Added:
>> trunk/edubuntu/
>> trunk/edubuntu/EdubuntuAbout/
>> trunk/edubuntu/EdubuntuReleaseNotes/
>> trunk/edubuntu/EdubuntuSetup/
>> trunk/edubuntu/EdubuntuUserGuide/
>> Log:www.edubuntu.org
>> Edubuntu documentation added on svn ()
>>
>> * Colin Applegate's step-by-step install guide ..?
>>
>> * Architectural basics – Oliver Grawert (ogra)
>>
>> * edubuntu can use ltsp, but could be used even without
>> this architecture, is a thin client architecture by
>> default desirable ?
>>
>> * which default desktop environment(s) do we want to
>> support ?
>>
>> * how do we want to implement the educational/scientific
>> software and which sets do we want to support (see
>> http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu for a initial
>> list) ?
>>
>> * which default administrational software will we need
>> (class management, scheduling etc.) ?
>>
>> * what do we do about multimedia apps for video/audio
>> editing, composing ?
>>
>> * "Customer" requirements – Jeff Elkner – Paul Flint
>>
>> * what is our target audience, what are their specific
>> needs (i.e. would edubuntu-elementary,
>> edubuntu-highschool, edubuntu-lab metapackages be
>> desirable)
>>
>> * are there special technical requirements we need to
>> cover additionally to the ones listed at
>> http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientIntegration?
>>
>> * how much windows compatibility do we need and in which
>> areas (for example wine pre-configurations for certain
>> software in vocational schools) ?
>> * Presentation by representatives of other edu distros:
>>
>> * SkoleLinux – Petter Reinholdtsen
>>
>> * Lliurex - Silvia Caballer
>>
>> * Interactors - Quim Gil
>>
>> * (K12)LTSP -Eric Harrison
>>
>> * etc
>>
>> _______
>>
>> I will post this up on the wiki shortly too - if you'd prefer to provide
>> your input there.
>>
>> www.edubuntu.org
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> JaneW
>> _____________
>> Jane Weideman
>> mobile: +27 83 779 7800
>> Canonical Ltd.
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel
>>
>
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