[Bug 11399] nautilus file browser windows never show backup files

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Thu Jun 2 11:42:10 UTC 2005


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cs-usenet at arcor.de changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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           Severity|major                       |normal




------- Additional Comments From cs-usenet at arcor.de  2005-06-02 12:42 UTC -------
I tried the above things again and now I was able to see backup files.
I will show below that the behaviour depends on the setting of System
-> Preferences -> File Management -> `Show hidden and backup files'. I
think it is not a bug, but it is a confusing behaviour that differs
very much from `ls'. I think it is like this:

- In order to see backup files, you have to go to System ->
  Preferences -> File Management and check the box at `Show hidden and
  backup files'.

- Now, open a Nautilus window -- you get both hidden and backup files.
  And here comes the trick: in order to see the `ordinary' files and
  the backup files, you can get rid of the hidden files with Ctrl+h,
  and finally, I see what I want.

So far, this is not a bug. It is just a strange behaviour compared to
command-line `ls' which really confused me: `ls' without options shows
`ordinary' files and backup files -- if you want to see hidden files,
you have to use `ls -a'. The default Nautilus behaviour, however, is
`ls -B' (that is, do not list implied entries ending with ~), and in
order to get standard `ls' behaviour, I have to enable

- System -> Preferences -> File Management and check the box at `Show
  hidden and backup files'

which corresponds to `ls -a', and then I have to press Ctrl+h in each
new Nautilus window I open in order to get rid of the `-a'. So it is
like this: Nautilus uses `ls -B'. I want `ls', that's why I have to
configure Nautilus to do `ls -a' (which overrides `ls -B') and then
press Ctrl+h in order to get plain `ls'.

Correspondingly (and this is the bad thing in my opinion) if I do not
check the box `Show hidden and backup files', then I can get the
hidden files to show up with Ctrl+h, but there seems to be /no/ way in
this case to get the backup files to show up, as Ctrl+h only toggles
hidden files. Well, looking in the `View' menu it says there `Show
Hidden Files Ctrl+H', so it doesn't say anything about backup files,
so it really only does what it says it does ;-) But that also means
that it is hard for the user to get the backup files to show up
without seeing the hidden files all the time -- that is, it is hard
for the user to get standard, plain `ls' behaviour in Nautilus (the
only way is to first enable hidden and backup files and then to hide
the hidden files again with Ctrl+h)!

Besides this (in my opinion strange) default behaviour of Nautilus,
there is actually a bug in this `hidden and backup files -- show
or show not' thing in the Configuration Editor, it seems to me, which
I reported separately in bug 11417.

I adjusted severity to `normal' as it works, but in a strange way.

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