Bazaar and Visual Studio

[Chris Hecker]

> Just to clarify a little, lack of IDE integration isn't quite the
> same as lack of GUI.

This.  I use qdiff et al. all the time.

Chris


On 2010/09/14 17:50, Philip Peitsch wrote:
> Just to clarify a little, lack of IDE integration isn't quite the same
> as lack of GUI.  Bazaar actually has rather good guis for commits,
> updates, diffs etc., and integration options for external merge/diff
> tools.  All the gui variants of bazaar are prefixed with q... for
> example, qcommit, qupdate, qdiff, qlog etc. (bzr help commands will show
> all available commands)
>
> I am interested as to what IDE integrations are required by your devs
> that isn't offered by bzr explorer, or has been proven to be more
> difficult on the command line?  The cry for IDE integration seems to
> happen quite frequently, but in my experience, unless the IDE
> integration focuses on the right thing, it can be quite useless.
>
> Also, you might be interested in the Eclipse Bazaar plugin:
> http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/BzrEclipse
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Talden <talden at gmail.com
> <mailto:talden at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>      > I'm at a Java shop that uses Subversion, and am quietly attempting to
>      > promote Bazaar - I see the above two issues as the most likely
>     sticking
>      > points.
>
>     They've proven to be a show-stopper here. Developers are split 50/50
>     between Eclipse and Intellij IDEA and use the VCS integration of the
>     IDE and of Explorer (TortoiseSVN) extensively.
>
>     Demonstrating some of the features bazaar would provide -
>     true-renames, good merge-tracking, local history (we're a looong way
>     from the server), local branches, ... - produced very positive
>     feedback.  Showing the lack of IDE integration ended the discussion.
>
>     Some things are just better done in the IDE or with a GUI - viewing
>     diffs, performing conflict resolution, refactoring, annotation, ...
>
>     I'm aware this is open source and without volunteers (and often paying
>     sponsors) there's nothing that can be done but I expect that without
>     progress on IDE and shell integration our workplace will never move to
>     bazaar (there is some progress on shell integration thankfully).
>
>     --
>     Talden
>
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>
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> Philip Peitsch
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