Bazaar and Visual Studio

[Philip Peitsch]

Just to clarify a little, lack of IDE integration isn't quite the same as
lack of GUI.  Bazaar actually has rather good guis for commits, updates,
diffs etc., and integration options for external merge/diff tools.  All the
gui variants of bazaar are prefixed with q... for example, qcommit, qupdate,
qdiff, qlog etc. (bzr help commands will show all available commands)

I am interested as to what IDE integrations are required by your devs that
isn't offered by bzr explorer, or has been proven to be more difficult on
the command line?  The cry for IDE integration seems to happen quite
frequently, but in my experience, unless the IDE integration focuses on the
right thing, it can be quite useless.

Also, you might be interested in the Eclipse Bazaar plugin:
http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/BzrEclipse

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Talden <talden at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I'm at a Java shop that uses Subversion, and am quietly attempting to
> > promote Bazaar - I see the above two issues as the most likely sticking
> > points.
>
> They've proven to be a show-stopper here. Developers are split 50/50
> between Eclipse and Intellij IDEA and use the VCS integration of the
> IDE and of Explorer (TortoiseSVN) extensively.
>
> Demonstrating some of the features bazaar would provide -
> true-renames, good merge-tracking, local history (we're a looong way
> from the server), local branches, ... - produced very positive
> feedback.  Showing the lack of IDE integration ended the discussion.
>
> Some things are just better done in the IDE or with a GUI - viewing
> diffs, performing conflict resolution, refactoring, annotation, ...
>
> I'm aware this is open source and without volunteers (and often paying
> sponsors) there's nothing that can be done but I expect that without
> progress on IDE and shell integration our workplace will never move to
> bazaar (there is some progress on shell integration thankfully).
>
> --
> Talden
>
>


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