Just to clarify a little, lack of IDE integration isn't quite the same as lack of GUI. Bazaar actually has rather good guis for commits, updates, diffs etc., and integration options for external merge/diff tools. All the gui variants of bazaar are prefixed with q... for example, qcommit, qupdate, qdiff, qlog etc. (bzr help commands will show all available commands) I am interested as to what IDE integrations are required by your devs that isn't offered by bzr explorer, or has been proven to be more difficult on the command line? The cry for IDE integration seems to happen quite frequently, but in my experience, unless the IDE integration focuses on the right thing, it can be quite useless. Also, you might be interested in the Eclipse Bazaar plugin: <a href="http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/BzrEclipse">http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/BzrEclipse</a> <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Talden <<a href="mailto:talden@gmail.com">talden@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">> I'm at a Java shop that uses Subversion, and am quietly attempting to > promote Bazaar - I see the above two issues as the most likely sticking > points. They've proven to be a show-stopper here. Developers are split 50/50 between Eclipse and Intellij IDEA and use the VCS integration of the IDE and of Explorer (TortoiseSVN) extensively. Demonstrating some of the features bazaar would provide - true-renames, good merge-tracking, local history (we're a looong way from the server), local branches, ... - produced very positive feedback. Showing the lack of IDE integration ended the discussion. Some things are just better done in the IDE or with a GUI - viewing diffs, performing conflict resolution, refactoring, annotation, ... I'm aware this is open source and without volunteers (and often paying sponsors) there's nothing that can be done but I expect that without progress on IDE and shell integration our workplace will never move to bazaar (there is some progress on shell integration thankfully). -- Talden </blockquote></div> -- Philip Peitsch Mob: 0439 810 260