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[Ben Finney]

Giorgos Keramidas <keramida at ceid.upatras.gr> writes:

> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 01:07:01 +1000, Ben Finney <ben+bazaar at benfinney.id.au> wrote:
> > Sure. The point, though, is that it's available as an option; there
> > are a great many more places that will allow SFTP and HTTP access to
> > a storage area, but don't allow arbitrary software (like a recent
> > version of one's preferred VCS program) to be installed. So having
> > this option for storage and publishing is a big advantage in my
> > reckoning.
>
> It's an advantage only until something "better" is installed. At that
> point it becomes a sluggish alternative.

I've already acknowledged that the smart server protocol is more
efficient than the dumb storage protocols. My point is that having *no*
ability to use a particular storage is the worst of the lot.

Having the ability to use dumb storage protocols is still an advantage
of the tool, since it makes more storage options available. That's the
point I'm making with this sub-thread.

> The complaints of all the Emacs developers about not having a better
> access method show that when there are faster choices programmers will
> tend to prefer them and cry in pain when they don't get them.

You're saying this as though I would disagree; I don't. We are all in
agreement that the Emacs developers have a legitimate complaint; that
Bazaar's fast server is not made available on Savannah. Efforts are
underway to fix that, in the only place they can be made.

Bazaar is fully capable, on every Emacs developer's workstation, of
using the smart server protocol as soon as the Savannah admins enable
it. Meanwhile, the Emacs can still use Bazaar on Savannah, in a
less-optimal manner, which is better than not being able to.

> While the idea of having a choice seems attractive, when the *only*
> choice you have is the slowest of the two, it's not as attractive
> anymore.

I don't understand. Surely having the slow storage option for one's
chosen VCS is more attractive than having no storage option for that
VCS?

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Ben Finney