bzr with bzr+ssh noisy and output muddled.

[Wichmann, Mats D]

Eric Siegerman wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 09:53 +1000, Martin Pool wrote:
>> If people don't like [progress reports] going to stderr what do they
>> want? 0 - Bugs regarding it cluttering other output fixed? ok, of
>> course. 1 - An option to just turn it off?  ok, that too should be
>> fixed. 
> 
> +1 and +1
> 
>> 2 - The progress bar sent to stdout?  That seems even worse, because
>> stdout is fairly often, even for commands that show progress, going
>> to be eg a patch or a log you want to redirect into another file.
> 
> Please no, for exactly the reason you point out -- stdout should
> not be cluttered with extraneous stuff.

The normal mechanism is that things like progress bars are sent
to stdout, but only if stdout is a real terminal; if stdout is
going elsewhere, like a logfile, it's suppressed.