thought of the day: bzr is making some developers' heads hurt.

[Alexander Belchenko]

Marius Kruger пишет:
> 2009/2/7 Alexander Belchenko <bialix at ukr.net>
> 
>>> This made me think of something somebody at work asked me recently:
>>> "I need to backport this fix to an older release branch, but I don't want
>> to
>>> think about it. Can you quickly do it for me?"
>> So, what is the actual problem? May be you need to write some sort of short
>> howtos for your colleagues?
> 
> 
> I did write a simple howto, but it is too complicated.
> they are used to using graphical user interfaces, so if you start telling
> them some simple commandline stuff, they think it is complicated and they
> get confused.

I found qlog from QBzr is powerful enough to run specific action on selected
revision (or set of revisions): push this revision to branch, merge this revisions
to branch etc. I'm just need to finally implement this.

But this won't help you if they used to bzr-gtk.

>>> Granted it is not the simplest of scenarios, and our setup is also
>>> suboptimal (even unoptimal :) .
>>> (several developers sharing the same workingtrees on a dev server,
>>> because the setup for the whole system is so complicated it was deemed
>>> better to just
>>> set up one instance and we share it)
>> I hope something can and will be changed here.
> 
> Our project is at its end, so we won't fix that now.
> But I started working on my laptop with everything checked out using scmproj
> a while ago, and our Technical Lead, also wants to start using that.
> (BTW, I'm not a svn expert and glad to be. but do you think its possible to
> do the multicomponent magic of scmproj with svn (without scmproj))

I'm not expert either, but I think kfogel is :-)
It seems like this magic is builtin in the svn as svn:externals property
for the directory.

> The problem is our project has too many dependencies, which is a lot of
> effort to install:
> Oracle (its handy to use Oracle XE on your laptop then you can work
> anywhere)
> php compiled with oracle bindings,
> tomcat, jboss, apache.

It's always problem, and it requires custom solution in most cases.
On Windows it's possible to create a sophisticated installer that
will install and configure many components at once.
I know Bitnami provides ready-to-use all-in-one installers for
some popular solutions/web-applications, e.g. Trac, Redmine.
I have no idea what is the typical way to achieve the same on Linux.