Russel Winder russel.winder at
Tue Dec 9 07:20:19 GMT 2008


On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 19:26 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Russel Winder writes:
>  > > You're asking the impossible.  On the one hand, you say "it works for
>  > > me, why do you break it with a version dependency?"  Now you're saying
>  > > "make sure it doesn't work for anybody, so that they'll be aware that
>  > > it might not work for others."
>  > 
>  > Yes and no -- but I don't think I am being contradictory.
> Maybe not, but it certainly seems so.

I don't think you read what I wrote.  Let us not descent into a slanging
match.  I think we have probably gone as far as we can go in this and
still be constructive.

>  > I understand your point but John managed to make the bzr 1.10, bzrtools
>  > 1.10, bzr-svn 0.4.16 roll out happen as close to at the same time as
>  > makes no difference which shows that it can be done.  For me this sets
>  > the bar for future releases.
> I'm confused.  Does that mean that you are volunteering to be release
> manager?  Otherwise, that's like saying "I hit the lottery for a
> million dollars today, so I expect that to happen every day from now
> on."

If someone want to pay me to do release management, certainly I will.

This situation of concurrent release of bound artifacts is not a
"lottery win", it is good , professional release management.

> If the bazaar team wants to set that bar, fine.  But I was under the
> impression that they explicitly did not want to do that, that is part
> of why these other projects have not been rolled into the core.

This may be true for other plugins since they have much looser version
requirements.  bzr, bzrtools and bzr-svn are a special trio because
their versioning is so tightly bound together.  Keeping them separate is
a management choice.  Releasing them in sync is just doing the right

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