Bazaar as interface to Subversion repositories

[Russel Winder]

On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 18:20 +1100, Andrew Cowie wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 14:30 +1100, Robert Collins wrote:
> > I would guess the extra metadata bzr-svn adds; which some (not all by
> > any means) svn users have objected too.
> 
> I don't think that anyone begrudges bzr-svn placing its own metadata;
> the problem was that it was *visible* to users of other systems. I for
> one I have actively prohibited myself from using bzr-svn to push to
> upstream because I know that the projects I contribute to would freak if
> they saw that kind of trash in their commit logs.

Use dpush -- but remember there will be rebasing so "changeset"
identities change which means if you branch from the branch things get
very messy.  (True of Git as well as Bazaar, this is a consequence of
rebasing.)

> I think the point that Ben is trying to articulate is that if
> transparent interaction was the original intent of bzr-svn, not pissing
> upstream projects off by forcing them to see all that junk (and, oh by
> the way, giving Bazaar a bad name in the process) really ought to have
> been a requirement for initial release, not a nice-to-have 2 years on.

Use rebase/dpush and it all works like Git and indeed like Subversion --
it is effectively impossible to tell in the Subversion repository which
of Bazaar, Git or Subversion was the committing client. 

> But whatever. I'm not the one writing the software, so I can only
> patiently encourage those who do. I'm thrilled to hear that some work is
> being done to store such data as invisible revision properties rather
> than visible file properties, and wish you all the best as testing this
> fix takes place.

I was less patient, a lot louder, and Jelmer just did the business.  The
fault appears to be in marketing this way of working.

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Russel.
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