Lack of deprecation period for short option changes

Wouter van Heyst larstiq at larstiq.dyndns.org
Wed Jan 10 23:05:55 GMT 2007


On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 09:00:20PM +0000, James Westby wrote:
> On (10/01/07 15:48), Aaron Bentley wrote:
> > I've had this problem with bzrtools maintainers before.  At their
> > suggestion, I started releasing bzrtools in parallel with the bzr
> > release candidate.  Seems like that's not enough, but I don't know what is.
> 
> I think you are doing all you can.
> 
> bzrtools is actually maintained by the utnubu team, who I believe were
> aiming to just sync back their packages from Ubuntu, but that hasn't
> been happening.
> 
> > I am not *sure*.  Technically, if bzrtools is a single release older
> > than bzr, and if bzr doesn't violate its deprecation procedures, then it
> > will work.  But of course I can't know what bzr 0.15 will be like when I
> > release bzrtools 0.14.
> > 
> > Beyond that, there is no guarantee, so bzrtools does disable itself.
> > 
> > I don't think it's a good idea to run an older-by-one bzrtools.  And
> > previously, people would complain about the deprecation warnings,
> > without realizing it was because bzrtools was out of date, so I added
> > the version warning.
> 
> This makes sense.
> 
> > What I mean is that the bzrtools 0.11 package should depend on bzr ( >=
> > 0.11 ) and bzr ( << 0.12 ).  That used to be the policy, but I see it
> > depends on bzr ( > 0.9 ) instead.
> > 
> 
> That also seems reasonable, and is going to put a lot more pressure on
> the maintainer to update in a timely manner. Maybe they don't want to
> commit themselves to this.
> 
> The solution here is obviously to have an attentive maintainer for the
> package. I'm not sure if this is going to happen soon though.

It would be my preference if bzr and bzrtools are maintained by the same
people. Do you know if the utnubu team would be ok with switching
maintainership, or perhaps including others?

Wouter van Heyst
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