Shut down and hit esc once the icon shows so you can watch the shut down sequence. See where it hangs. Fred Roller <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 23, 2016 11:36 AM, "Neil Winchurst" <<a href="mailto:neilwin@drofle.co.uk">neilwin@drofle.co.uk</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Recently I upgraded to Xubuntu 16.04 on my desk top computer. I also have a laptop as backup so I installed the same on that too. Then I found that, when trying to shut down, the laptop did not close down properly, but just stayed on a screen with a circle looping round and round. I had to close down by holding the power button down until it all finally stopped. Looking on the internet I find that a lot of people are having the same problem with version 16.04. There are various suggestions for fixing it, some of which work for some people but not for others. My wife and daughter are still on version 14.04 and I was planning to upgrade their laptops too, but not now. Has anyone on the list had this problem too? It seems to be just with Xubuntu and not Xfce. I have also tested both Linux Lite and Linux Mint with Xfce and they were fine. My desktop mostly works, but a couple of times I have had the same problem with that. Any suggestions, comments, help gratefully received. Neil -- xubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div></div>