<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFCC" text="#000000"> I commonly experience a long wait before a shutdown or reboot (chosen from GUI menu). If I try to execute a shutdown again, I see the error message, <blockquote>Session manager must be in idle state when requesting a shutdown. </blockquote> This occurs even when all programs are not running. I do not have "Automatically save session on logout" activated in Session Startup settings. However, after such a shutdown, when rebooting, some applications that were open before shutdown re-appear AND menus are mangled - running applications do not appear in the top panel and individual application have missing menu pull-downs. Some can only be closed with a ctrl-q. This appears to be a long-standing bug and continues after I just re-installed Xubuntu 12.04 with all updates. The menu issue can be repaired by running this command from the CLI: <blockquote>xfwm4 --replace </blockquote> The problem recurs so frequently that I've put the command into an alias! Fix? /Roger </body> </html>