<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Problem: In Settings Manager, Main Menu and Menu Editor fail to start. Thanks to Chris and Lutz for prompt replies. I am not sure what is happening here but on following up these replies and a hour or so of web searching, I tried renaming folder .config/menus to .config/menus1 to hide it from the program and that allowed me to use the two menu editing programs again. Good progress. When I tried to enter my new application as a menu item, I had the selection in the "toplevel" position and when I had finished editing and saved, it did not appear. So I went to start the editor again, and again the editors were non-functional. I again renamed .config/menus, and the editors worked again. This time I made sure the editor was pointing into the Electronics area before starting to create the new application entry. This time, when saved, it appeared in Electronics and could be re-edited and corrected without any problem. This maybe an error that was mentioned by a few people in web pages about menu entries "disappearing" and wrecking the system. People were saying it was something to do with where the new entry was landing. It presently seems to be part working and part not working? So advice: if Main Menu and Menu Edit refuse to work, delete .config/menus, and begin again, and secondly, Choose a Category other than top level to create any new menu items, just to be safe. Apologies: I think I may have tried to create a menu item yesterday, not checking it immediately and not knowing about the "toplevel" thing. Then gone away thinking I had got it working and later returned to do some more menu editing and "mysteriously" those functions had stopped working. Someone wiser in the ways of Linux may like to take a look at this, or help me understand what I was doing wrong. Cheers to people who have taken an interests in this. <div class="moz-signature">-- Rob Ward Lake Tyers Beach, 3909 <a href="http://www.laketyersbeach.net.au">Lake Tyers Beach Website</a> </div> </body> </html>