<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">George, as was said before, the classic xfce menu is still available. Whisker was chose because if offers a more dynamic and modern menu system than the traditional and that was considered positive. Previously it was consulted with the community and subject to vote.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">The system will still allow administrators to create and modify the panels and lock them just like it always did, the "favourite" applications can be edited by an admin and then blocked so it can't be changed by a standard user.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Please do not attack a new technology just because its new, I'm prone to do that and I've learned that it's usually just a matter of taking some time to see what the new technology apports than the previous one lacked. But luckily Xubuntu is Xfce based, what it means is that all the traditional options are still available to use, none of them where eradicated. If you don't like a setting you can always modify them to your liking.<br>
</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-03 15:43 GMT-03:00 George F. Nemeyer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tigerwolf@tigerden.com" target="_blank">tigerwolf@tigerden.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Elfy wrote:<br>
<br>
> This is one of those things - one man's default is another's yuk ...<br>
<br>
</div>Another emphatic YUCK!<br>
<br>
One of XFCE's main strengths is the ability to create kiosk-mode locked<br>
down menus for corporate/public machines where users are not able to<br>
change the layout or content, or do other things like shutting<br>
down/rebooting the machine.<br>
<br>
For about a decade now, XFCE has provided the ideal solution for such<br>
environments, but the core values are being needlessly and disturbingly<br>
erroded. The current Xubuntu version, for example, allows users to right<br>
click on a panel/launcher and get a 'log out' panel with complete<br>
shutdown/reboot/suspend privilages, completely bypassing restrictions set<br>
on what should be the only 'exit' launcher (at least this is true with the<br>
default lightdm, which has it's own issues).<br>
<br>
Adding things like 'favorites' and other user changeable frills in<br>
launchers is simply anathema for many business and corporate environments<br>
where machines are shared and centrally configured and administered. It<br>
could also be argued that creating 'top 10' lists of used programs is a<br>
privacy/security issue.<br>
<br>
I sincerly hope the 'traditional' launcher mechanisms will continue being<br>
available, otherwise, I'll be looking for another distro.<br>
<div class=""><br>
> Also, just a general point - these things do get discussed - and there<br>
> are logs - during meetings [1].<br>
><br>
> I'm sure it's not your intent - but people are welcome to the meetings,<br>
> and to talk too ;)<br>
<br>
</div>Wonderful.<br>
<br>
George Nemeyer<br>
Tigerden Internet Services<br>
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