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<DIV>I find videos on youtube made by youngsters (teens – preteens) sometimes
show me the information on how to do things that more experienced people assume
is common knowledge cos theyve done it so often.</DIV>
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<DIV>Also computer magazines when they have something of interest in them.</DIV>
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<DIV>I prefer Ubuntu Software Center to Synaptic for installing new programs
because its simper and point to clickable.</DIV>
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<DIV>Unlike first time computer users we oldies know what we want to do,</DIV>
<DIV>and have a good idea of whats going on inside the computer,</DIV>
<DIV>we just need to learn what its called in ubuntu/linux user interface
world.</DIV>
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<DIV>good luck!</DIV>
<DIV>[george]</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=davidwalland@googlemail.com
href="mailto:davidwalland@googlemail.com">David Walland</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 10 September, 2013 09:17</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [xubuntu-users] Is there a list for *ABSOLUTE*
beginners withXubuntu?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Dear Elfy,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>Only to the extent of your reply giving me details of the UK
UGs. No-one else seems to quite understand how difficult it is to work out
how to get *in* when you're *out*. The latest oddments added to my
question appear to be written in "Outer Swahili" rather than even "Outer
Mongolian" and appear to have no relationship to beginners of whatever level.
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<DIV>As soon as I have finished my big DIY projects, I'll contact the UK user
groups to see if there's anyone prepared to mentor me for a while,
locally. I'm neither stupid nor "past-it" and should be able, with
face-to-face discussions, to learn the necessary information to use X/Ubuntu
fairly rapidly. This list has apparently mostly forgotten they had to
learn the information that I need, to *start* on the learning curve. I
learnt Danish to fluency - to the point of being able to work directly with
Danish patients in the Oncology Department of a Danish hospital (Vejle Syghus,
if anyone wants to check). If I can start learning a rule-free language
like Danish to fluency at age 40 (and at 66 and hearing impaired, I'm still
fluent), then the much simpler language of X/Ubuntu is going to be possible if I
can learn the fundamental "grammar" and basic structure. Learning Danish
from a Danish wife was not enough. I had to move there and learn from people
while being immersed in it. Now that's a lot harder than a logical
language like a computer language, so what I really need is someone who'll help
me get that basic structure and roughly what each part of it does, so I can go
on and learn from there.</DIV>
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<DIV>Professionally, I was a University Radiation Protection specialist from lab
technician up to Radiation Protection Adviser. I've written detailed
"Codes of Practice" and once I get there, I may be able to produce documentation
which deals with this very simple material for those who are starting from
around zero. But first *I've* got to get off the start line and so far I'm
not really managing to do so...</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks for asking the question Elfy, only my warped sense of humour is
keeping my frustration from overflowing...</DIV>
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<DIV>Regards</DIV>
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<DIV>David</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 9 September 2013 23:12, Elfy <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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<DIV>On 03/09/13 15:14, David Walland wrote:<BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>I went onto this list, hoping to learn from it but I'm *SUCH* a
newbie with Linux/X/Ubuntu that it could mostly be written in Outer
Mongolian without reducing the amount of meaning I get from it.
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<DIV>I'm 66 and have worked with computers on and off since 1964, so I'm no
novice. I was fairly expert on BBC Micros in the 1980s and was also
programming in hex on the 6800 at that time. Since the PC revolution,
I've been just a user and I simply can't seem to get off first base with
Xubuntu, which I have on a laptop so ancient it defaults to 1998 if the
onboard battery fails (often).</DIV>
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<DIV>It runs surprisingly quickly on an older version of Xubuntu
(10.04). I can use it for ordinary "user" things but can't manage to
get Office Libre to load (it *downloaded* OK!) onto the machine and the
error messages don't use words memorable enough for me to record them (they
flash on screen and then disappear before I can do anything sensible!)</DIV>
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<DIV>Is there any local group in the NE of England I could join for
mentoring? I really want to learn Linux/Ubuntu and run my XP machines
on it from next year - all I need is some help to get me up to where I can
learn alone.</DIV>
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<DIV>Videos are no help as I'm hearing impaired from birth and can't
concentrate on both hearing and grasping content at the same time.</DIV>
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<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>David Walland</DIV></DIV><BR>
<FIELDSET></FIELDSET> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV></DIV>So - after a whole
bunch of replies - some getting further and further into the intricacies of
various issues - are you any the wiser David? <BR>
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