<div dir="ltr">Yes but George, I'm hearing impaired and I can't listen and take in while trying to solve modern teen-speak. There's usually loud music as well. While I've 66 years of practice (poor choice of parents, I'm afraid) this is still not enough for videos, even professional ones (I use subtitles on TV).<div>
I did explain about this earlier in this sequence of e-mails.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>David</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 September 2013 12:12, George DiceGeorge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dicegeorge@hotmail.com" target="_blank">dicegeorge@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>I find videos on youtube made by youngsters (teens – preteens) sometimes
show me the information on how to do things that more experienced people assume
is common knowledge cos theyve done it so often.</div>
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<div>Also computer magazines when they have something of interest in them.</div>
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<div>I prefer Ubuntu Software Center to Synaptic for installing new programs
because its simper and point to clickable.</div>
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<div>Unlike first time computer users we oldies know what we want to do,</div>
<div>and have a good idea of whats going on inside the computer,</div>
<div>we just need to learn what its called in ubuntu/linux user interface
world.</div>
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<div>good luck!</div>
<div>[george]</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="davidwalland@googlemail.com" href="mailto:davidwalland@googlemail.com" target="_blank">David Walland</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 10 September, 2013 09:17</div><div class="im">
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [xubuntu-users] Is there a list for *ABSOLUTE*
beginners withXubuntu?</div></div></div></div>
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<div>Dear Elfy,</div>
<div> </div>Only to the extent of your reply giving me details of the UK
UGs. No-one else seems to quite understand how difficult it is to work out
how to get *in* when you're *out*. The latest oddments added to my
question appear to be written in "Outer Swahili" rather than even "Outer
Mongolian" and appear to have no relationship to beginners of whatever level.
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<div>As soon as I have finished my big DIY projects, I'll contact the UK user
groups to see if there's anyone prepared to mentor me for a while,
locally. I'm neither stupid nor "past-it" and should be able, with
face-to-face discussions, to learn the necessary information to use X/Ubuntu
fairly rapidly. This list has apparently mostly forgotten they had to
learn the information that I need, to *start* on the learning curve. I
learnt Danish to fluency - to the point of being able to work directly with
Danish patients in the Oncology Department of a Danish hospital (Vejle Syghus,
if anyone wants to check). If I can start learning a rule-free language
like Danish to fluency at age 40 (and at 66 and hearing impaired, I'm still
fluent), then the much simpler language of X/Ubuntu is going to be possible if I
can learn the fundamental "grammar" and basic structure. Learning Danish
from a Danish wife was not enough. I had to move there and learn from people
while being immersed in it. Now that's a lot harder than a logical
language like a computer language, so what I really need is someone who'll help
me get that basic structure and roughly what each part of it does, so I can go
on and learn from there.</div>
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<div>Professionally, I was a University Radiation Protection specialist from lab
technician up to Radiation Protection Adviser. I've written detailed
"Codes of Practice" and once I get there, I may be able to produce documentation
which deals with this very simple material for those who are starting from
around zero. But first *I've* got to get off the start line and so far I'm
not really managing to do so...</div>
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<div>Thanks for asking the question Elfy, only my warped sense of humour is
keeping my frustration from overflowing...</div>
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<div>Regards</div>
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<div>David</div></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 9 September 2013 23:12, Elfy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ub.untu@btinternet.com" target="_blank">ub.untu@btinternet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I went onto this list, hoping to learn from it but I'm *SUCH* a
newbie with Linux/X/Ubuntu that it could mostly be written in Outer
Mongolian without reducing the amount of meaning I get from it.
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<div>I'm 66 and have worked with computers on and off since 1964, so I'm no
novice. I was fairly expert on BBC Micros in the 1980s and was also
programming in hex on the 6800 at that time. Since the PC revolution,
I've been just a user and I simply can't seem to get off first base with
Xubuntu, which I have on a laptop so ancient it defaults to 1998 if the
onboard battery fails (often).</div>
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<div>It runs surprisingly quickly on an older version of Xubuntu
(10.04). I can use it for ordinary "user" things but can't manage to
get Office Libre to load (it *downloaded* OK!) onto the machine and the
error messages don't use words memorable enough for me to record them (they
flash on screen and then disappear before I can do anything sensible!)</div>
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<div>Is there any local group in the NE of England I could join for
mentoring? I really want to learn Linux/Ubuntu and run my XP machines
on it from next year - all I need is some help to get me up to where I can
learn alone.</div>
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<div>Videos are no help as I'm hearing impaired from birth and can't
concentrate on both hearing and grasping content at the same time.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
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<div>David Walland</div></div><br>
<fieldset></fieldset> <br></blockquote><br></div></div>So - after a whole
bunch of replies - some getting further and further into the intricacies of
various issues - are you any the wiser David? <br>
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