<!DOCTYPE html><html><head> <style type="text/css">body { font-family:'Droid Sans Mono'; font-size:12px}</style> </head> <body>On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 09:25:55 -0700, David Walland <davidwalland@googlemail.com> wrote:<br><br><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0.80ex; border-left: #0000FF 2px solid; padding-left: 1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear All,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your replies so far. Can I point out that I'm actually in North East England, in the UK in Europe. Some of you seem to have misread this. Hadrian's Wall starts about 60km (some 35 miles) north of where I live.</div> <div><br></div><div>The machine is an old Samsung I was given as a freebie. It sports an IDE 32GB SSD which I bought for trying out cheaply second-hand on e-bay a couple of years ago and just discovered why I hadn't been able to access it with any other machine - I cut the bit of plastic off and it works fine when the pins can reach the socket (!!??!!) to plug in. Theoretically the max memory is 256 MB but I managed to get it to read one 256 MB stick as long as there was a Samsung 128 MB stick in the other slot.</div> <div><br></div><div>The machine has Open Office on it as part of the Xubuntu download. I simply prefer Office Libre.</div><div><br></div><div>I've already learned some things which aren't readily accessible to the uninitiated from Elfy's reply - thanks for this, I'll try them shortly. I've been trying to find a local group or list to contact. Somehow I can't have phrased my questions right on Google because none of this info came up when I looked for it. But no Elfy, my reaction time isn't fast enough to take a photo. It was never good and has got slower with age. Presumably if I knew where to go there must be some way of making the machine leave these up. I just don't know where.</div> <div><br></div><div>25 years ago when I was learning Danish (my wife's mother tongue) in Denmark, the nephews and nieces laughed at us both because we spoke "Old Nordic" instead of modern "new-speak" Danish. I wonder whether I speak Old Nerdic or even Proto-Nerdic when I see much of the material on this list! Oddly the microcode stuff made lots more sense to me as I was introduced to that in 1981.</div> <div><br></div><div>Next year a lot of people who have clung on to XP will be looking for somewhere to go. X/Ubuntu ought to be a natural home for people like that but it is so-o-o difficult to break into it direct from Windows. We need a translation. If I once manage to understand what I'm doing in Xubuntu, I'll volunteer to help write one but..............</div> <div><br></div><div>David </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 September 2013 16:36, George DiceGeorge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dicegeorge@hotmail.com" target="_blank">dicegeorge@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <div dir="ltr"> <div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Calibri'"> <div> <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';font-weight:normal"> </div> <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';font-weight:normal">david wrote:It runs surprisingly quickly on an older version of Xubuntu (10.04). I can use it for ordinary "user" things but can't manage to get Office Libre to load (it *downloaded* OK!) onto the machine and the error messages don't use words memorable enough for me to record them (they flash on screen and then disap</div><div class="im"> <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';font-weight:normal">pear before I can do anything sensible!)</div></div></div> <div> <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';font-weight:normal">]</div></div> <div> <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';font-weight:normal">it may be possible to take a picture of the error messages with your phone, or other camera.</div></div> <div> <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';font-weight:normal"> </div></div> <div> <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';font-weight:normal">i guess theres not enough memory for liberoffice, which is huge compared to whatever word processor they put in xubuntu 10.04.</div></div> <div> <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';font-weight:normal"> </div></div> <div> <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';font-weight:normal">i’m using xubuntu on old machines, and ubuntustudio on new machines, as they both use the xfce desktop.</div></div> <div> <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';font-weight:normal"> </div></div> <div> <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:'Calibri';font-weight:normal">[g]</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div>\</div><div><big>David: IMO it's a lot easier to use Ubuntu or Xubuntu on a newer machine, at least the latest distributions. If you could possible upgrade to a newer model of desktop or laptop, I'm sure a lot of the difficulties would disappear. In my experience Xubuntu works like a charm with relatively little or no mentoring needed.</big></div><div><big><br></big></div><div><big>Paul Donlan (Los Angeles, California, USA)</big></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0.80ex; border-left: #0000FF 2px solid; padding-left: 1ex"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><big> </big><big><br></big><big>--</big><br> xubuntu-users mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div> </blockquote><br><br><br><div id="M2Signature"><div><br></div></div></body></html>