Hello John and Mike, Somehow you managed to send your email to me, Mike. You might want to check it out. Bob from Panama <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:22 AM, John Deakin <<a href="mailto:john@humanaspects.co.uk" target="_blank">john@humanaspects.co.uk</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 07/09/12 06:07, Mike Kupfer wrote: > Jack Fromm wrote: > >> I forgot to mention one other symptom. Alt-F4 doesn't work. > [...] >> I thought it was just me. I developed the same problem the other night. >> I've been on 12.04 since May and it worked fine until then. In addition >> to the problems John describes, applications open on my secondary >> monitor and I can't move them. Not only that, but they don't show an >> icon on the panel like an open app should. Finally, when I go into >> Settings Manager, both Window Manager and Window Manager Tweaks are >> completely blank when I open them. > > Jack, in your case, it sounds to me like the Xfce window manager (xfwm4) > is not running for some reason. > > If you can get a terminal window, see if "pgrep xfwm4" prints anything. > If it does not, try running "xfwm4 &" and see if that fixes things. > > I don't recognize the symptoms that John Deakin reported, but it > wouldn't hurt for him to try these steps, too. > > If manually starting xfwm4 fixes things for you, make sure you save your > session so that you have xfwm4 the next time you log in. > > mike My problem returned so I followed Mike's advice and got no return. Having tried running "xfwm4 &" all was well again. Can you tell me how I might have lost xfwm4 to start with? -- regards, John 01367 820542 -- xubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div>