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<div>I would expect find apps that fit the spirit of the
derivative. <br>
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I haven't encountered that phrase before: "the spirit of the
derivative".<br>
What would you say is "the spirit" of Ubuntu? Hardly lightweight,
being a full blown Gnome distribution. Unity is not lightweight
either.<br>
<br></div></blockquote><div>I never said that ubuntu was lightweight or that they intended their distribution to be lightweight. </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div> Xubuntu, and Xfce4 are both based around the idea of a
lightweight but fully featured desktop.</div>
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It certainly seems so. But certainly not in "the spirit of"
Ubuntu. Why did they bother to call it Xubuntu and yet leave out
everything remotely like Ubuntu? <br><div class="im">
<br></div></div></blockquote><div>xubuntu (and all of the other derivatives for that matter) has no impetus to follow along with whatever ubuntu is doing. That's the whole point of a derivative distribution; to do something different with the operating system. What's the point in rolling a different distro based on the sources of ubuntu if you're not going to change anything?</div>
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<div> The apps I would expect to be included with xubuntu are
lighter alternatives to those in ubuntu. <br>
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I would certainly expect "lighter alternatives" if Xfce sat on top
of a CLI based derivative, but I repeat: Why did they bother to
call it Xubuntu and yet leave out everything remotely like Ubuntu? </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Justin said it best: </div><meta charset="utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: medium; "><table class="Bs nH iY" cellpadding="0" style="position: relative; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); width: 968px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">
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<div id=":2fg"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">One more time: BECAUSE IT ISN'T UBUNTU!!!</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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</blockquote></div>"If <meta charset="utf-8">Xfce sat on top of a CLI based derivative"<div><br></div><div>Either you really don't know how linux works at all (in which case I'd do some reading before ranting on a mailing list...) or you're just trolling. </div>
<div><br></div><div>-Ross</div>