<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> "apar" thanks for the reply. I checked in <pre wrap="">Xfce Settings > Sessions and Startup > Advanced </pre> as suggested. All I find there is the following with no mention of Xfce. "Launch GNOME services on startup" ....which is selected "Launch KDE services on startup" ...........which is unselected No Xfce option available. apar wrote: <blockquote class="cite" id="mid_1266680725_9726_50_camel_NoOP" cite="mid:1266680725.9726.50.camel@NoOP" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 05:32 -0500, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:miscemailstuff@gmail.com">miscemailstuff@gmail.com</a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote class="cite" id="StationeryCiteGenerated_1" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Sometime back when messing with the settings I came across an option which permitted a KDE desktop or a metalcity (????) gnome desktop and I think an Xfce desktop. Any idea what this control is as I can't seem to locate it since? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> in Xfce Settings > Sessions and Startup > Advanced </pre> <blockquote class="cite" id="StationeryCiteGenerated_2" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Is it possible to use Xfce oriented programs exclusively and get rid off kde and gnome items? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> As far as I know: you don't need KDE services by default, but you need gnome services (at least in 8.10) eg for "network-manager-gnome" hope this helps </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>