<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 3:58 AM, leegold <<a href="mailto:leegold@fastmail.fm">leegold@fastmail.fm</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> The desktop is totally strange, the check box mentioned will not stay checked and a pdf file's icon on my desktop can not be copied cut or pasted, occasionally I can open it - I think there are problems with 8.10 - at least for me. </blockquote></div> It sounds like xfdesktop (Xfce's desktop manager) isn't started, you might want to add it to Autostarted Applications in the Settings Manager. Not sure why it happens, you might want to report it at <a href="http://bugs.ubuntu.com">bugs.ubuntu.com</a>. -- Vincent