They are quite good but lack at least a cd rom drive (that would be nice for a hassle free ubuntu installation).<br><br>I've been looking at Samsung's notebooks and found some pretty decent (don't know the price tag yet). The X1 - ultraportable with a top loading cd rom drive; the X11, R60 and Q35. I'm going to compare 'em with the ThinkPads and look for both price tags around here and feature compatibility with Ubuntu. <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/4/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Illusha Nokhrin</b> <<a href="mailto:illu45@gmail.com">illu45@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Well, if its not aesthetics but portability you're looking for, I think that any ultraportable would do. I believe that the Thinkpad Series X are ultraportable. Also, I think just about every major laptop manufacturer has an ultraportable model. <div><span class="e" id="q_112f78519bbcf4d6_1"><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/4/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">João Santiago</b> <<a href="mailto:exalowprofile@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> exalowprofile@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>I live in Portugal, that, unfortunately is a barrier for getting good laptops. Dell doesn't sell lappys with ubuntu pre-installed. But that's not an issue, because I'm going to install it myself anyway. ThinkPads are sold though. </div> <div> </div> <div>I'm looking for a notebook with the same form factor (small - very portable) as a macbook, I don't really care for the aesthetics, because if I would, I would go for an actual MacBook, tehy're just beautiful. <br> </div> <div><div><span><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/4/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jim Campbell</b> <<a href="mailto:jwcampbell@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> jwcampbell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span> </span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><span><br><br> <div><span><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/3/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Allie Daneman</b> <<a href="mailto:df@drainfade.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">df@drainfade.com </a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">You get what you pay for...if you want a rock solid laptop that 'just works' out of the box get a Thinkpad. If you wanna screw around and buy a machine that will break after being dropped once get something else ;) <br>Adam Miller(<a href="mailto:maxamillion@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">maxamillion@gmail.com</a>)@Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 08:08:48PM -0500:<br>><br>> Stay away from ThinkPads if you are worried about price. I would say <br>> check out [1]sonystyle.com ... sony has for a very long time tried to <br>> be the "apple of the pc world" as far as design style goes, it might<br>> be a good place to look (you are probably going to need to go with <br>> lower end parts to keep cost down, but form factor should be do-able) <br>> and as long as you stick with an intel pro wifi card, everything<br>> should work off a fresh installation<br>> -Adam <br>></blockquote></span> <div><br>The Thinkpad R series is pretty good for the price. You can get a decently configured R60e for under / around $700. I think it's kind of a cruel joke that their base R60e comes with 512mb of RAM and Windows Vista Home Premium by default. That setup wouldn't run well at all. <br><br>Has Dell come up yet? We are talking about laptops on an X/Ubuntu-related mailing list, right? Check out the inspiron e1505n with Ubuntu pre-installed.<br><br>Unfortunately, in terms of appearance, I don't think that you'll find much that will compare to the "cool" factor of a Mac. 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