<div>On 1/18/07, Gauvain Pocentek <<a href="mailto:gauvainpocentek@gmail.com">gauvainpocentek@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Please see <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2007-January/002884.html">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2007-January/002884.html</a> about claws/TB. About epiphany, it brings in all the gnome libs, and we try to avoid this since the beginning of Xubuntu. Please find a browser which can do everything that Firefox does (without gnome or kde libs, perl, c#...), also find someone ready to maintain it in Ubuntu, and I guess that everybody would be OK to replace Firefox.</blockquote><div> Though probably compatibility or an own library of extensions isn't required because you won't find one anyway :P </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Gauvain Irena & Richard Jenkins wrote: > As a user of several Xubuntu distributions ... both for the x86 and > ppc platforms I want to raise the issue of the future of the > distribution.  When first developed, Xubuntu was targeted at the user > whose machine was a little 'below par' when compared with the usual > home and/or office machine.  IIt was aimed at machines that lacked raw > horsepower and or memory resources to cope with the steeply increasing > resource demands of either KDE or Gnome. > > Lately, I find that Xubuntu is becoming more of a **different** > distribution ... and has lost its focus on doing more with less.  It > has replaced KDE with XFce ... touting its ability to do the job with > fewer resources.  However, the selection of packages leaves me > bewildered.  As examples I note that for browsers and email ... the > common programs are Firefox and Thunderbird.  I have nothing against > these two programs ... but it has to be admitted that they are large > and quite resource hungry.  At home I replace them with the mail > client sylpheed and the browser epiphany.  No trouble to do this ... > and the change results in a significant 'speed-up' of my internet > activity. > > Now why were the large programs included in the basic cdrom for > xubuntu and installed automatically onto the desktop?   Additionally, > why are they so important to Xubuntu that if you try to remove them > you are warned that you will be throwing out the meta-package > 'xubuntu-desktop'? > > It's precisely this sort of change that makes me wonder if Xubuntu > developers have 'lost the plot' ... and are content with rendering > something different rather than something really useful to those of us > who are still plugging away ... with older machines ... keeping them > going until they are just fit for cannibalisation. > > I am writing this on a mac ... but my preferred portable computer is > an old 366 MHz celeron with 96 meg of ram.  This machine will only run > 6.06 Xubuntu .... with careful choice of packages.  It does run them > well providing internet feeds ... whether by dialup, wifi or > ethernet.  Later Xubuntu (6.10) does NOT run well on this machine ... > and I despair of getting 7.04 to work with any speed.  My other > desktop an iMac 350MHz with 256 Meg of memory also suffers if I do not > change the email and browser clients. > > So, what about it developers?  Is there a basic minimum specification > for hardware ... that you recommend for your distribution ... and are > you brave enough to specify it? > > > Richard > > > Irena and Richard Jenkins > Canberra, Australia > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > Irena & Richard Jenkins > in Canberra or on the road... > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > -- xubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div> -- Vincent