I run a 333mhz w/ 256mb of ram and I can run firefox 2.0, gaim, xchat, gedit, several terminals, beep-media-player (with music playing), several applets, etc. and it runs fine for me. Even when I only had 128mb, it ran ok (I just had to watch my memory consumption and I did notice that Edgy consumed more memory then Dapper). But maybe I'm just so used to using a slow computer that I have lower expectations then other people? *shrugs* lol Thanks, Cody A.W. Somerville <div>On 1/18/07, Frank Tao <<a href="mailto:solotim.cn@gmail.com">solotim.cn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I think it's impossible to find a alternative one to firefox as for now.Maybe we should wait firefox improve its speed. LOL. By the way, why Claws Mail, but not Sylpheed? On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:58:37 +0100 Vincent <<a href="mailto:imnotb@gmail.com">imnotb@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > On 1/18/07, Gauvain Pocentek <<a href="mailto:gauvainpocentek@gmail.com">gauvainpocentek@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > > > > Please see > > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2007-January/002884.html">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2007-January/002884.html</a> > > about claws/TB. > > > > About epiphany, it brings in all the gnome libs, and we try to avoid > > this since the beginning of Xubuntu. Please find a browser which can do > > everything that Firefox does (without gnome or kde libs, perl, c#...), > > also find someone ready to maintain it in Ubuntu, and I guess that > > everybody would be OK to replace Firefox. > > > Though probably compatibility or an own library of extensions isn't required > because you won't find one anyway :P > > Gauvain > > > > > > > > Irena & Richard Jenkins wrote: > > > As a user of several Xubuntu distributions ... both for the x86 and > > > ppc platforms I want to raise the issue of the future of the > > > distribution. When first developed, Xubuntu was targeted at the user > > > whose machine was a little 'below par' when compared with the usual > > > home and/or office machine. IIt was aimed at machines that lacked raw > > > horsepower and or memory resources to cope with the steeply increasing > > > resource demands of either KDE or Gnome. > > > > > > Lately, I find that Xubuntu is becoming more of a **different** > > > distribution ... and has lost its focus on doing more with less. It > > > has replaced KDE with XFce ... touting its ability to do the job with > > > fewer resources. However, the selection of packages leaves me > > > bewildered. As examples I note that for browsers and email ... the > > > common programs are Firefox and Thunderbird. I have nothing against > > > these two programs ... but it has to be admitted that they are large > > > and quite resource hungry. At home I replace them with the mail > > > client sylpheed and the browser epiphany. No trouble to do this ... > > > and the change results in a significant 'speed-up' of my internet > > > activity. > > > > > > Now why were the large programs included in the basic cdrom for > > > xubuntu and installed automatically onto the desktop? Additionally, > > > why are they so important to Xubuntu that if you try to remove them > > > you are warned that you will be throwing out the meta-package > > > 'xubuntu-desktop'? > > > > > > It's precisely this sort of change that makes me wonder if Xubuntu > > > developers have 'lost the plot' ... and are content with rendering > > > something different rather than something really useful to those of us > > > who are still plugging away ... with older machines ... keeping them > > > going until they are just fit for cannibalisation. > > > > > > I am writing this on a mac ... but my preferred portable computer is > > > an old 366 MHz celeron with 96 meg of ram. This machine will only run > > > 6.06 Xubuntu .... with careful choice of packages. It does run them > > > well providing internet feeds ... whether by dialup, wifi or > > > ethernet. Later Xubuntu (6.10) does NOT run well on this machine ... > > > and I despair of getting 7.04 to work with any speed. My other > > > desktop an iMac 350MHz with 256 Meg of memory also suffers if I do not > > > change the email and browser clients. > > > > > > So, what about it developers? Is there a basic minimum specification > > > for hardware ... that you recommend for your distribution ... and are > > > you brave enough to specify it? > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > Irena and Richard Jenkins > > > Canberra, Australia > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > > > > Irena & Richard Jenkins > > > in Canberra or on the road... > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > xubuntu-users mailing list > > <a href="mailto:xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users</a> > > > > > > -- > Vincent > -- Frank Tao <<a href="mailto:solotim.cn@gmail.com">solotim.cn@gmail.com </a>> -- xubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div> -- Firefox (<a href="http://www.getfirefox.com">www.getfirefox.com</a>) -- A browser you can trust