[xubuntu-users] Update Thu 07aug25 - Firefox and Chromium crash

Fri Aug 22 14:18:07 UTC 2025

On 8/22/25 05:16, Liam Proven wrote:
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> On 20/08/2025 4:55 pm, James Freer wrote:
> 
> You are on a mailing list. Please bottom-post. It is easy in Gmail: in 
> the Compose pane, press Ctrl+A to select all. Trim the text to what you 
> are replying to and delete the rest. Then type below.
> 
> If you are replying on your phone: don't.
> 
> 
> 
>> "agents provocateurs"?
>>
>> I've been using Xubuntu since 2008 and don't appreciate your rudeness.
> 
> Your messages to the list fail to observe basic email and mailing list 
> netiquette. The replies to you were rude because your emails, including 
> this one, are rude. This is an important lesson to learn in life. When 
> you think "people are being nasty to me" then ask yourself why, and work 
> out what you did that might have caused them to be nasty. Such as top 
> posting.
> 
>> I'm was using Xubuntu 24.04.2 LTS
> 
> "I'm was"?
> 
> Anyway. We should not have to ask you for this. You need to provide this 
> info up front.
> 
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro
> 
>> I found after installation i had 4 orphans [non deletable] which i
>> posted about and received no helpful comments.
> 
> What on Earth is an "orphan" meant to be in the context of a Linux 
> distro? I've been using Linux since 1995 and Unix since 1988. I do not 
> know this word.
> 
>> Then raise the issue of Firefox and Chromium crashes after the last
>> update. Versions from the repo. 
> 
>  > Still criminally vague. What repo? Snap or Deb? What versions? What 
> did you try? Did you run from a terminal to observe error messages? Did 
> you reboot after installation or update before trying them?
> 
>  > I'm no 'agent provocateur'
> 
> Your messages, including this, are provocative in multiple ways. I 
> suggest to you that rather than complaining -- twice! -- in a single 
> mail, you stop and think what you did to get this response.
> 
>> If comments like these are what Xubuntu mailing list has to offer
>> these days i am glad i returned to MX Linux... and there the browsers
>> are working fine.
> 
> Bye then.
> 
> I believe the kids say:
> 
> This is not an airport. You do not have to announce departures.
> 

Another reminder from a previous e-mail message of mine in this thread:

	http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

which includes this advice:

> Be precise and informative about your problem
> 
> + Describe the symptoms of your problem or bug carefully and clearly.
> 
> + Describe the environment in which it occurs (machine, OS, application, whatever). Provide your vendor's distribution and release level (e.g.: “Fedora Core 7”, “Slackware 9.1”, etc.).
> 
> + Describe the research you did to try and understand the problem before you asked the question.
> 
> + Describe the diagnostic steps you took to try and pin down the problem yourself before you asked the question.
> 
> + Describe any possibly relevant recent changes in your computer or software configuration.
> 
> + If at all possible, provide a way to reproduce the problem in a controlled environment. 