[xubuntu-users] Sudden loss of WiFi - New Install or Upgrade using APTIK

Fri Aug 14 11:20:46 UTC 2015

Dear All,

Thank you for your various ideas.  I'm at work and can't use the machine
here as I can only connect via WiFi, which of course doesn't work
(!!##!!).  This morning I tried to set up Aptik, which looks really
useful.  I tried via Apt-get and gdebi and both came up with a problem due
to missing lib data (I'm sorry, I don't have the exact details to hand).
I'm under intense time pressure at home but hope to be able to sort out and
download the needed missing lib file(s) tonight so I can simply save my set
up and re-install Xubuntu.  This would be an enormous step forward as I
seem to re-install fairly often and being able to  re-instate my set up
easily sounds great.  First I've got to get Aptik to work, though.

I don't intend to go to a more modern version of Xubuntu.  14.04 is *much*
slower on this old system (which was designed last century, when all is
done).  This machine is about taking it into dirty environments and around
peoples studios and to courses (like I'm doing Monday and Tuesday).  I back
the thing up regularly, it's of minimal value, I've expended a trivial
amount of money and enjoyed rebuilding it as far as it'll go.  The Pentium
chip was very cheap and sped the thing up markedly.

So I've a lot of common sense and fun invested in this machine and intend
to use it as my workbook instead of a hard copy which will not get written
up (many years' bitter experience in lab based research).  My handwriting
is awful, this prints out re,adably!!!

If I can "win" some time while my brain is firing (at 68 this can no longer
be taken for granted alas) I hope with all your help, I'll get this back to
linking with WiFi hubs before leaving for the Potteries on Sunday.

When I manage to solve it I'll make sure that it is reported as solved and
with the solution.

This has driven me to buy a hard copy of Bill Shotts' book "The Linux
Command Line".  So hopefully I will be able to be more help here and less
of a searcher after help in future.

Regards

David

On 13 August 2015 at 16:22, kelmark <pcgarminmap at gmail.com> wrote:

> To make new installs and upgrades of existing systems easier, you need
> to use Aptik.
>
> Look at http://www.teejeetech.in/2014/09/aptik-v16.html to see how to
> use aptik.  (The latest version is Aptik v1.6.4 and should install with
> following instructions)
>
> The PPA is at https://launchpad.net/~teejee2008/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
> RE: This should install the latest package which is for all recent
> Ubuntu versions or the .deb is located
> http://www.teejeetech.in/2015/05/ppa-updated.html
> To install:
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:teejee2008/ppa
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get install aptik
>
> I used aptik on three existing xubuntu system upgrades via Clean Install
> to Trusty 14.04 from 12.04.
> Steps:
> 1. Aptik will allow you to backup your current software sources and
> software selections to a directory.  You will likely need to edit and
> remove any software entries that will not be installed in your new system.
> 2. Copy the directory and saved sources, selections to USB
> 3. Clean Fresh Install your new xubuntu
> 4. Install aptik on your new system
> 5. Copy your USB saved backup directory to your new system
> 6. Launch aptik and restore your software sources
> 7. Restore your Software selections
>
> Note; Aptik can save downloaded packages, settings and Themes, but since
> this will be a new install, those will be pointless.
>
> PS. I don't remember running into any terrible errors when I performed
> the restore.  I had alot of software and the new installs took a couple
> of hours to complete.
> Don
>
>
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> >    1. Re:  Sudden loss of WiFi during updating (Petter Adsen)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:30:58 +0200
> > From: Petter Adsen <petter at synth.no>
> > To: xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Sudden loss of WiFi during updating
> > Message-ID: <20150813123058.4950cf6a at odin>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 05:57:34 -0400
> > JMZ <florentior at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes I agree Petter that my path of thought is convoluted (it almost
> >> always is).  Still, it is not a bad idea to back up sources.list and
> >> maybe also the directory sources.list.d before 'do-release-upgrade'.
> > My point was really that he shouldn't try to upgrade his entire
> > distribution at all, at least not until it is determined that an
> > upgrade would be the only way to solve his problem. In this particular
> > case it might be possible that an update actually broke something - we
> > don't know yet.
> >
> > If he were to do an upgrade, he should make a backup of _everything_
> > before doing so, especially as he needs his machine in working order or
> > Monday. And he should probably stick to upgrading to trusty, unless he
> > really needs vivid.
> >
> > Another thing he could have done would be to boot from for example a
> > trusty live image to see if that works better at all before
> > contemplating an upgrade.
> >
> > In short, as he needs his machine on Monday he should be quite careful
> > with things he does to fix it right now. Your advice could have gotten
> > him into a situation he would have a hard time getting out of, and that
> > is what I objected to.
> >
> > Petter
> >
> >> Jordan
> >>
> >> On 08/13/2015 05:22 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 04:53:21 -0400
> >>> JMZ <florentior at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi David,
> >>>>
> >>>> One peril of running a (what I think is a) no-longer-supported version
> >>> You are wrong. 12.04 is still supported, until well into 2017.
> >>>
> >>>> Try this.  It's a bit risky and convoluted, but I can help you out if
> >>>> the computer gets stuck.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pre-steps.  ----> Go to your terminal.
> >>>>
> >>>> -------------------> I like ROXTerm (shameless plug).  Type 'sudo
> >>>> apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install roxterm' to try it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) copy /etc/apt/sources.list to another file.  ie. go to x:x/$ (your
> >>>> root directory) and type 'sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list
> >>>> 08132015-sources.list' or however you like to organize your backup
> files.
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>> Nononononono. Don't. If you do want to upgrade, then take the
> >>> 'do-release-upgrade' route, as that will take care of everything you
> >>> need to think about. While doing it this way might work, I wouldn't
> >>> recommend it to a newbie. And there might be newer kernels available
> >>> that have the drivers you need, take a look at:
> >>>
> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
> >>>
> >>> That is if the kernel is the problem at all. What might have happened
> >>> is that your system upgraded to a newer kernel that has some problem
> >>> with your wifi adapter. What you could do to determine this is to
> >>> reboot with your previous kernel, it should still be installed.
> >>>
> >>> Reboot, and select "Advanced" from the Ubuntu boot menu. There you
> >>> should be able to select your previous kernel (if there are many,
> >>> select the one with the next-highest version number). See if that fixes
> >>> your problem before you try anything else.
> >>>
> >>> Petter
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
>
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