[xubuntu-users] xubuntu-users Digest, Vol 82, Issue 17

Wed Nov 20 18:39:57 UTC 2013

I agree: Xubuntu 12.04.3, the most recent Xubuntu LTS update, is solid, reasonably current, with updates available as needed.  I'd go with it since you are installing for a neighbor who is looking for something that works well.  Xubuntu 12.04.3 LTS fits that description well.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Choosing the right/best version (release) of    Xubuntu
      (Ali Linx (amjjawad))
   2. Re:  Choosing the right/best version (release) of Xubuntu
      (Victor Forberger)
   3. Re:  Choosing the right/best version (release) of Xubuntu
      (PGillespie)
   4. Re:  Choosing the right/best version (release) of    Xubuntu
      (Ali Linx (amjjawad))
   5. Re:  Choosing the right/best version (release) of    Xubuntu
      (George DiceGeorge)

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Xubuntu Community,
>
>Hope everyone is fine and doing well :)
>
>I have a neighbour, who is a Windows User but because I've been talking and talking a lot about Linux, he decided to give me two laptops and asked me to install Linux and wipe Windows as he is interested to try.
>
>Tell you the truth, I am a bit confused as what Ubuntu Based System shall I go ahead and install on these machines? these two laptops aren't Low Hardware Machines so any Ubuntu Flavour should do the job.
>
>I was thinking about using Xubuntu because, IMHO, I think it would be a good choice for a Windows User. He has never used Linux before :)
>
>However, I am not too sure which release do you recommend? I was thinking about 12.04 because it is an LTS release but what do you recommend?
>
>I didn't choose Lubuntu because there is no LTS release. 13.04 is great but will reach its EOL soon. 13.10 has many issues that I would avoid for a newcomer. I am confused between Ubuntu GNOME and Xubuntu. I think Xubuntu is a bit closer to Windows than Ubuntu GNOME. I am also thinking about Peppermint but we don't have an LTS version for Peppermint AFAIK.
>
>Hope you could enlighten me with the best choice to convert two machines to Linux :D
>
>Also, he said that his son needs Paint because of School. I told him there are lots of alternatives but he said Paint is better and he wanted Windows on one of the machines but I will do whatever I could to not install Windows :D I might need to look at Wine or a very close alternative to Paint. Any idea?
>
>Thank you in advance!  
>
>-- 
>
>Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>Best Regards,
>amjjawad
>Areas of Involvement
>My Projects
>

Hi again,

Thanks for your replies (3 so far) but I'm afraid the replies I am reading are not helping me so allow me to re-explain.

1- The one who brought his two laptops to me is not a friend, he is a neighbour. He saw my posting on our neighbourhood facebook group about Linux and he was interested to give it a try :)

2- He does not want a dual-boot system, he wants to get rid of Windows :)

3- I am not asking about Mint, Bodhi, etc. I am asking about what version of Xubuntu that Xubuntu Community recommend :)

4- Mentioning other Distros names was just to explain the options I was thinking about. Ignore that if it caused any confusion.

So, in very short sentence:
I need to know what version of Xubuntu do you recommend? 12.04 or 13.10?

And, as for using an outdated system, I am afraid I shall never do such mistake specially with a Windows Users who will start using Linux for the first time :) the systems are being updated and have EOL for a good reason :)

Many thanks :)

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Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
Best Regards,
amjjawad
Areas of Involvement
My Projects
Stick with 12.04 (or 12.10).  I've had bluetooth issues with 13.04 and
now bluetooth, sound, and power manager issues with 13.10.  Basically,
hardware support was more robust with the year 12 versions.

- Victor
xubuntu user since 2007

On 11/20/2013 11:44 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> Thanks for your replies (3 so far) but I'm afraid the replies I am
> reading are not helping me so allow me to re-explain.
> 
> 1- The one who brought his two laptops to me is not a friend, he is a
> neighbour. He saw my posting on our neighbourhood facebook group about
> Linux and he was interested to give it a try :)
> 2- He does not want a dual-boot system, he wants to get rid of Windows :)
> 3- I am not asking about Mint, Bodhi, etc. I am asking about what
> version of Xubuntu that Xubuntu Community recommend :)
> 4- Mentioning other Distros names was just to explain the options I was
> thinking about. Ignore that if it caused any confusion.
> 
> So, in very short sentence:
> I need to know what version of Xubuntu do you recommend? 12.04 or 13.10?
> 
> And, as for using an outdated system, I am afraid I shall never do such
> mistake specially with a Windows Users who will start using Linux for
> the first time :) the systems are being updated and have EOL for a good
> reason :)
> 
> Many thanks :)
> 

So, what's your question then? Seems you've already made all the decisions that need be made. 

Seems you want stability, stability, stability. Use Xubuntu 12.04. 

Done.

When you ask "what version", are you asking what flavor of
      Xubuntu? There are many distros, such as Voyager, for example,
      that are based on Xubuntu 12.04?

On 11/20/2013 12:52 PM, Victor Forberger wrote:

Stick with 12.04 (or 12.10).  I've had bluetooth issues with 13.04 and
now bluetooth, sound, and power manager issues with 13.10.  Basically,
hardware support was more robust with the year 12 versions. - Victor
xubuntu user since 2007 On 11/20/2013 11:44 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: 
>Hi again, Thanks for your replies (3 so far) but I'm afraid the replies I am
reading are not helping me so allow me to re-explain. 1- The one who brought his two laptops to me is not a friend, he is a
neighbour. He saw my posting on our neighbourhood facebook group about
Linux and he was interested to give it a try :)
2- He does not want a dual-boot system, he wants to get rid of Windows :)
3- I am not asking about Mint, Bodhi, etc. I am asking about what
version of Xubuntu that Xubuntu Community recommend :)
4- Mentioning other Distros names was just to explain the options I was
thinking about. Ignore that if it caused any confusion. So, in very short sentence:
I need to know what version of Xubuntu do you recommend? 12.04 or 13.10? And, as for using an outdated system, I am afraid I shall never do such
mistake specially with a Windows Users who will start using Linux for
the first time :) the systems are being updated and have EOL for a good
reason :) Many thanks :) 
>
>

Hi :)

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:08 PM, PGillespie <vermontpoet at gmail.com> wrote:

So, what's your question then? 

"I need to know what version of Xubuntu do you recommend? 12.04 or 13.10?" :)

Seems you've already made all the decisions that need be made. 
>

If I have, I wouldn't ask :)

>Seems you want stability, stability, stability. Use Xubuntu 12.04.
>

>Done

It is not what I need, it is what I want to give to a newcomer to Linux :)
For me, I know what option do I need but for someone who is new to Linux and have never seen Linux nor used it, I must be careful :) 

When you ask "what version", are you asking what flavor of Xubuntu? There are many distros, such as Voyager, for example, that are based on Xubuntu 12.04?

I am afraid you are confused between:

http://xubuntu.org/ - which is an Ubuntu Flavour 

and
http://www.xfce.org/ - which is a Desktop Environment 

What version = what release 

Thank you :)

-- 

Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
Best Regards,
amjjawad
Areas of Involvement
My Projects

Unity is very confusing (like win8)
xubuntu has nice clear menus,
as does its cousin
ubuntustudio which includes a lot more apps for sound and video 
editing,
depends how big and fast the computers are which one to install.

[george]

From: fch 
Sent: Wednesday, 20 November, 2013 17:21
To: Xubuntu Support and User 
Discussions 
Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Choosing the right/best version 
(release) of Xubuntu

On 11/20/2013 4:13 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
wrote:

Hello Xubuntu Community,
>
>Hope everyone is fine and doing  well :)
>
>I have a neighbour, who is a Windows User but because  I've been talking and talking a lot about Linux, he decided to give me two  laptops and asked me to install Linux and wipe Windows as he is interested to  try.
>
>Tell you the truth, I am a bit confused as what Ubuntu Based  System shall I go ahead and install on these machines? these two laptops  aren't Low Hardware Machines so any Ubuntu Flavour should do the  job.
>
>I was thinking about using Xubuntu because, IMHO, I think it  would be a good choice for a Windows User. He has never used Linux before  :)
>
>However, I am not too sure which release do you recommend? I  was thinking about 12.04 because it is an LTS release but what do you  recommend?
>
>I didn't choose Lubuntu because there is no LTS  release. 13.04 is great but will reach its EOL soon. 13.10 has many issues  that I would avoid for a newcomer. I am confused between Ubuntu GNOME and  Xubuntu. I think Xubuntu is a bit closer to Windows than Ubuntu GNOME. I am  also thinking about Peppermint but we don't have an LTS version for Peppermint  AFAIK.
>
>Hope you could enlighten me with the best choice to  convert two machines to Linux :D
>
>Also, he said that his son needs  Paint because of School. I told him there are lots of alternatives but he said  Paint is better and he wanted Windows on one of the machines but I will do  whatever I could to not install Windows :D I might need to look at Wine or a  very close alternative to Paint. Any idea?
>
>Thank you in  advance!  
>
>
>-- 
>
>Remember: "All of us are smarter than  any one of us."
>Best Regards,
>amjjawad
>Areas of Involvement
>My  Projects
>
>
>You could 
install as a dual boot, so there is a option to boot into Windows or Linux.
I 
would use Xubutu 12.04 for long term support.
Reico 

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