[xubuntu-users] 2014 Rolling release?

[Ric Moore]

On 01/30/2013 05:38 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-01-30 at 05:25 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
>> On 01/29/2013 06:41 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 11:31 +0000, James Freer wrote:
>>>> Seems Centos is only stable for their own repo which is for servers
>>>
>>> I never used it, quiet possible that you're right, since it's based on
>>> RHEL. I suspect that Fedora is the averaged desktop distro, the
>>> competitor for Ubuntu, that has to do with Red Hat. Fedora for sure is
>>> more used by developers and known universities, than Ubuntu is. There
>>> might be a reason for this ;).
>>
>>
>> Huh? It's a rolling wreck at times. It's clearly stated purpose is to be
>> in perpetual beta mode for RHEL. Back when I used it, when things were
>> broken that didn't happen to be in the gun sight at the time, they
>> didn't get fixed. I had a project on hold for months, and when I finally
>> switched to Ubuntu, no problems and it all worked. You couldn't get me
>> to use Fedora if I had to be shot, and I worked for Red Hat from 1999 to
>> 2000. I was in the RPM world since Red Hat's first release on CD. It was
>> like getting a divorce to switch. Now, for our servers, I use Debian and
>> for our staff we use Ubuntu with XFCE desktop.
>>
>> So, no. You couldn't convince me that anyone using their machine for
>> serious work would begin to use Fedora. Ric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
>> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
>> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
>> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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>>
>
> So Fernando Lopez and other important Linux audio folks are using a
> buggy distro?
> http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
>
> Fedora isn't to my taste, that's why I'm not using it, but I doubt that
> such an important distro should be that bad.

"Taste" doesn't cut it in the world of zeros and ones. It is the avowed 
purpose of Fedora to run cutting edge for the pure purpose of testing. 
That is widely acknowledged and the Fedora website used to post the 
warning that is was a pure testbed and not a stable distro.


 > When I run it in VBox
> several times, I never have seen issues.

Several times doesn't cut it, when you are running 24/7. They were 
missing Xvfb support for over 6 months, which held my project up to the 
point of needing serious damage control ...switching completely to 
Ubuntu. Raul told me that they didn't have time to fix it and that it 
wasn't important. !!! That's dead in the water time. A dead parrot. But, 
for those propeller heads that LOVE chasing down problems and reporting 
them, AND tolerate rpm, can and do use Fedora. Again, it's stated public 
goal, as a project, is to be ~unstable~.

> Another important Linux audio developer, Robin, likely that he's using
> Debain, regarding to his work, does recommend this at LAU and nobody
> disagreed?
>
> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2013-January/089750.html

I don't see where that post lists anyone's support, as it merely added 
that they be included for voting on. So, my guess is that Fedora wasn't 
a first choice. I would hate like hell to be working on a massive audio 
project and have some bit of beta audio library blow it up.

-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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