[xubuntu-users] xubuntu-users Digest, Vol 65, Issue 17
Os Maleus
os.maleus.73 at gmail.com
Sun Jun 10 08:30:37 UTC 2012
On Saturday 09 June 2012 22:18:08 xubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:08:10 -0400
> From: Michael Comperchio <compercm at gmail.com>
> To: xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] you have got to be kidding me
> Message-ID: <4FD3C94A.80403 at gmail.com>
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> On 06/09/2012 03:52 PM, TOM TOM wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Chris <racerx at makeworld.com
> > <mailto:racerx at makeworld.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On 6/9/2012 2:16 PM, Michael Comperchio wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 06/09/2012 03:06 PM, Chris wrote:
> > >> On 6/9/2012 1:53 PM, Michael Comperchio wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On 06/09/2012 02:41 PM, Chris wrote:
> > >>>> On 6/9/2012 1:36 PM, Michael Comperchio wrote:
> > >>>>> On 06/09/2012 01:29 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Michael Comperchio
> > <compercm at gmail.com <mailto:compercm at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> I am pissed (and not in an intoxicated kinda way).
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I am going to put a LOT of thought into the next couple of
> > paragraphs.... so
> > >>>>>>> it might be a few minutes...
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Seriously... who in their right mind could possibly
> > recommend Linux as their
> > >>>>>>> operating system? The shit blows up every day!!!!... I
> > have to reboot 12.04
> > >>>>>>> just to make it see my interenet dongle! and you guys
> > think this is a good
> > >>>>>>> thing? I wrote serious software for NASDAQ SCO Unix as the
> > platform....
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I absolutely no concept of what the hell you people are
> > trying to sell with
> > >>>>>>> Ubuntu... the thing just STINKS
> > >>>>>> You should have thought a bit longer. With so many Linux
> > >>>>>> installations, including
> > >>>>>> the majority (over 50%) of web servers, your experience
> > must not be typical.
> > >>>>>> We're not that masochistic.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I'm quite sure the problem is at your end. You don't give
> > enough
> > >>>>>> information for
> > >>>>>> me to even hazard a guess as to exactly where, except that
> > with problems so
> > >>>>>> severe, I would suspect hardware over configuration but
> > cannot be sure.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> The just sinks. Sorry but it does.
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Michael Comperchio
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> michael.comperchio at gmail.com
> > <mailto:michael.comperchio at gmail.com>
> > >>>>> 860 387 2650 <tel:860%20387%202650>
> > >>>>> 44 Eagle St, 3 fl
> > >>>>> Torrington, CT. 06790
> > >>>>> */Computers were created to help people become more
> > productive... then
> > >>>>> someone invented the internet./*
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> A serious reason indeed!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> How does a Posi Traction work ... IT JUST DOES !
> > >>>>
> > >>> No I have NO way to log off and/or shut down except for the power
> > >>> button... XP here i come
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> Michael Comperchio
> > >>>
> > >>> michael.comperchio at gmail.com <mailto:michael.comperchio at gmail.com>
> > >>> 860 387 2650 <tel:860%20387%202650>
> > >>> 44 Eagle St, 3 fl
> > >>> Torrington, CT. 06790
> > >>> */Computers were created to help people become more
> > productive... then
> > >>> someone invented the internet./*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> You should perhaps take a look at this:
> > >> http://linuxhcl.com/
> > >>
> > >> Maybe something of yours is not listed and this should act as a
> > guide.
> > >> Kinda reminds me of the old Windows NT days - users used to
> > complain
> > >> that the hardware they had didn't work BUT, if they had what
> > was listed,
> > >> it did (of course) and ma have saved some of them not only
> > headaches,
> > >> but money too.
> > >>
> > > I don't have the patience tonight... are you seriously telling
> > me that
> > > the hardware I have, with which is pretty much generic, and
> > pretty much
> > > worked fine before the last round of updates is the problem!??!?!?!
> > >
> > > I DON'T THINK SO.
> > >
> > > I think people just didn't test
> > > --
> > >
> > > Michael Comperchio
> > >
> > > michael.comperchio at gmail.com <mailto:michael.comperchio at gmail.com>
> > > 860 387 2650 <tel:860%20387%202650>
> > > 44 Eagle St, 3 fl
> > > Torrington, CT. 06790
> > > */Computers were created to help people become more
> > productive... then
> > > someone invented the internet./*
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Not at all - BUT, it is interesting that now and only now - you are
> > elaborating on what is/was going on. To me, you would have been better
> > served if you started with much of what you said above and I quote,
> >
> > "pretty much worked fine before the last round of updates",
> >
> > in the first place instead of voicing your frustration as you did.
> > We all have been there - and you too will get past this one way or
> > another.
> >
> > Give it a break for now, come back when cool heads prevail!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Keep well,
> >
> > Chris
> > <><
> >
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> >
> >
> > I'd say going the Windows way is the right choice, at least for now.
> > I know Linux can be a pain sometimes, and 12.04 is not as polished as
> > it should be, and will be in a couple of months.
> > Cheers!
> >
> >
> I really do apologize to the list. I lost my temper.
>
> But I now have a system that just doesn't work. It's taken me the better
> part of an hour to even send this email.
>
> It seems the X11 is shot. I try to select a menu item (from any program,
> Firefox, Thunderbird, Chrome) and I get the selections that used to be
> in the top panel.... Which I have no idea where that went...
>
> Please don't tell me to reinstall... I need X fixed. Yes... I CAN use
> a terminal... just don't want to!
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Comperchio
Hi Michael,
I myself am a newbe on Linux. Consicer that, if You follow my proposals!
But, despite of that, I am using it as my main OS since a full year now. Have had pretty much trouble at the beginning, I need to admit.
In Your case, I would proceed as following:
1) installing zsh - which is an easy-to-use bash
sudo aptitude install zsh
wget -O .zshrc http://git.grml.org/f/grml-etc-core/etc/zsh/zshrc … is downloading a very useful configuration file for the app and saving it hidden into Your home-folder. Information about that programm You can find under
http://grml.org/zsh/.
for making it as Your standard bash, You need to type
which zsh …
chsh -s [ooutput of which zsh]
2) making a backup of the home-folder and the system with rsync by something like this:
sudo rsync -avb --progress --del --backup-dir=[folder trace, where You want ot have the changes]/ --log-file=[trace to the folder, where You would like to have log-file like]/rsync.system.log --exclude=/sys --exclude=/proc --exclude=/media --exclude=.ecryptfs --exclude=/home / /media/[external hard-drive and some folder]/
rsync -avb --progress --backup-dir=[folder trace, where You want ot have the changes]/ --log-file=[trace to the folder, where You would like to have log-file like]/rsync.home.log --del --exclude=.gvfs --exclude=Cache --exclude=.cache --exclude=cache --exclude=CACHE --exclude=.thumbnails --exclude=.juniper_networks /home/[Your folder]/ /media/[external hard-drive and some folder]/
if something should go wrong, You can simply play everything back by
for the system folder:
sudo rsync -avb --progress /media/[external hard-drive and some folder]/ /
for Your home-folder:
rsync -avb --progress /media/[external hard-drive and some folder]/ /home/[Your folder]/
from now on, it would be necessary to use the terminal without being logged on at X
3) creating a new user
4) adding him to the sudoers group
5) deleting the old user from the profile of the new user
6) (re-)creating it by adding a new user again - this time with the name of the old user
7) adding him to the sudoers group
8) deleting the user, which You were working during these steps
If this doesn't work, I would simply reinstall the X-part of the Linux ... and eventually, repeat these stepps once again, if necessary.
Wish You luck!
Os
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