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...Xubuntu will provide an easy to use distribution, based on Ubuntu, using
> Xfce as the graphical desktop, with a focus on integration, usability and
> performance, with a particular focus on low memory footprint...


In my mind "focus on performance" and "low memory footprint" are exactly th=
e
mission of Xubuntu... and therefore SLIM should be used instead of GDM.

I have used SLIM on a fluxbox machine before and never had any issues with
it. I think it should be considered for GDM replacement.

Best regards,
Kaspar

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 31 May 2010 14:55, Charlie Kravetz <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cjk at teamcharliesangels.com">cjk at teamc=
harliesangels.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
On Mon, 31 May 2010 06:44:18 -0600<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">Charlie Kravetz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cjk=
@teamcharliesangels.com">cjk at teamcharliesangels.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; On Mon, 31 May 2010 13:57:20 +0200<br>
&gt; Kaspar K=F6=F6p &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:meborc at gmail.com">meborc at gmail.c=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Hi all,<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; This again boils down on what Xubuntu is here for. If we want lig=
htweight<br>
&gt; &gt; OS, then slim is the way to go. If we want all the blitz and blin=
g and be a<br>
&gt; &gt; ubuntu (gnome) copy with xfce, use gdm.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I really thing Xubuntu should define it&#39;s place in the OS mar=
ket. Are we<br>
&gt; &gt; striving for low memory machines or not?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; If not, why is abiword and gnumeric in the default install instea=
d of full<br>
&gt; &gt; openoffice? If we are, slim is a good option to reduce the bloat.=
<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; After Xubuntu has defined where it wants to fit in, we can start<=
br>
&gt; &gt; make choices based on that.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Kaspar<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Please post at the bottom of the messages as requested in<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists</a> . It =
makes the<br>
&gt; thread so much easier to follow if it does not jump all over in the<br=
>
&gt; message.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On 31 May 2010 13:49, Charlie Kravetz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cjk at t=
eamcharliesangels.com">cjk at teamcharliesangels.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; On Mon, 31 May 2010 08:36:20 +0300<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Mihamina Rakotomandimby &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mihamina at gulfs=
at.mg">mihamina at gulfsat.mg</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Manao ahoana, Hello, Bonjour,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; xubuntu-desktop installs gdm, even in lucid.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I tested slim, but it works quite well.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I think xubuntu should consider switching to it.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I will _try_ to improve the slim package and see.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Misaotra, Thanks, Merci.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Why? &quot;Works quite well&quot; also applies to gdm.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Xubuntu has never defined itself as &quot;for low memory systems only&=
quot;. It<br>
&gt; has, however, defined it&#39;s goals. One of those is &quot;The target=
 audience<br>
&gt; for Xubuntu is users who are interested in having a modestly light<br>
&gt; weight, slim, fast desktop experience while retaining the usability an=
d<br>
&gt; functionality that is required to provide an easy to use desktop<br>
&gt; environment.&quot; [1]. That is the goal of Xubuntu, and the target. W=
ith no<br>
&gt; funding, limited developers, and limited time, Xubuntu must constantly=
<br>
&gt; monitor the applications chosen, and use those requiring the least<br>
&gt; man-hours to maintain. If changing from GDM to Slim would allow the<br=
>
&gt; developers less time maintaining Slim, that could be a good move.<br>
&gt; However, the effect on the users must also be considered.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div>Left out my reference, The Xubuntu Strategy document, which gui=
des the<br>
Xubuntu process. If you would like to help with Xubuntu, please get<br>
involved. It is easy to get started [2]<br>
<br>
[1] <a href=3D"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument" target=3D"=
_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument</a><br>
[2] <a href=3D"http://xubuntu.org/devel" target=3D"_blank">http://xubuntu.o=
rg/devel</a><br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><div><br></div><div>Hi</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>From that document i read:</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0=
px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204,=
 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; ">
...Xubuntu will provide an easy to use distribution, based on Ubuntu, using=
 Xfce as the graphical desktop, with a focus on integration, usability and =
performance, with a particular focus on low memory footprint...</blockquote=
>
<div><br></div><div>In my mind &quot;focus on performance&quot; and &quot;l=
ow memory footprint&quot; are exactly the mission of Xubuntu... and therefo=
re SLIM should be used instead of GDM.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I have u=
sed SLIM on a fluxbox machine before and never had any issues with it. I th=
ink it should be considered for GDM replacement.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Kaspar</div><div><br></div><div=
><br></div><div>=A0</div>

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