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"The current version of the Ext2 file system driver does not maintain *acce=
ss
rights*. All users can access all the Ext2 volumes that a drive letter is
created for. For example, if a drive letter has been created for an Ext2
volume, which is the root volume of a Linux installation, you can simply
read and modify files such as /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. User names are
readable and passwords of these users can be quite easily cracked and
modified!
Therefore the current Ext2 file system driver does *not* fit for
installations which require restrictive rights policies. It should be
sufficient for your computer at home, which is used by one or a few users
only. Furthermore, you should create drive letters for a root volume of a
Linux installation only if you know exactly what you are doing."
Jim
On 3/20/07, Joshua Gardner <mellowcellofellow at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Actually, if you want good interoperability, make /home ext3 and install
> the ext3 driver for windows. I don't have XP here so I sort of forgot tha=
t
> that was an option. So, partitioning could look like this:
>
> NTFS WinXP partition, Ext3 Xubuntu / partition, Ext2
> Xubuntu /home partititon (put this as Documents and Settings in WinXP
> somehow), swap partition.
>
> -Josh
>
> On 3/20/07, Adam Miller <maxamillion at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > You can read them, but not write to them .... you are actually able to
> > write to them with the help of a third party library but I can't vouch =
for
> > its stability.
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> > On 3/20/07, Jo=E3o Santiago <exalowprofile at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > win ntfs, /home (why not ext3?), Xu ext3, swap I have another HD
> > > with lots of stuff but its NTFS, can i read those files from Xu?
> > >
> > > On 3/19/07, Joshua Gardner <mellowcellofellow at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In that setup, make /home a FAT32 FS, and you forgot xubuntu swap.
> > > >
> > > > Josh
> > > >
> > > > On 3/19/07, Jo=E3o Santiago <exalowprofile at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think about this scheme: Windows NTFS, /home
> > > > > partition, xubuntu Ext3
> > > > >
> > > > > btw: Ubuntu can't write to NTFS partitions right? but it can read
> > > > > them, does that mean that i can, for instance, open, from within =
xubuntu, a
> > > > > movie file located in the NTFS partition?
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/19/07, Vincent < imnotb at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 19/03/07, Daniel Bodanske < daengbo at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you can wait until next month's release, the installer wil=
l
> > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > have the option of installing to your windows partition,
> > > > > > > guaranteeing
> > > > > > > no data loss since the Xubuntu system will just be a disk
> > > > > > > image file
> > > > > > > in your old partition.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 3/19/07, Adam Miller < maxamillion at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Defragment your windows partition and then run the Xubuntu
> > > > > > > live cd, there is
> > > > > > > > an option for partition resizing during the installation.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Adam
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 3/18/07, Jo=E3o Santiago <exalowprofile at gmail.com> wrote=
:
> > > > > > > > > I want to install XU or Ubuntu in my pc but the disk (in
> > > > > > > raid0) has only
> > > > > > > > one partition that occupies the hole disk.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I want to keep my Windows partition and Data and install
> > > > > > > Xu. How should i
> > > > > > > > proceed to avoid data loss? (i already made a backup)
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't think you want to do that (already), especially not
> > > > > > because perhaps you'd later still want it on a separate partiti=
on, but also
> > > > > > because it is relatively new. I'd go for partition resizing. Th=
ough you
> > > > > > might still want to wait for Feisty because it can import you W=
indows
> > > > > > settings.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
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The Ext3 windows driver does have some limitations, though . . . <br><br>Fr=
om the website ( <a href=3D"http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_right_lim=
it">http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_right_limit</a> ):<br><p>"Th=
e current version of the Ext2 file system driver does not maintain=20
<em>access rights</em>.
All users can access all the Ext2 volumes that a drive letter is
created for. For example, if a drive letter has been created for an
Ext2 volume, which is the root volume of a Linux installation, you can
simply read and modify files such as /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. User
names are readable and passwords of these users can be quite easily
cracked and modified! </p>
=09=09=09<p>
=09=09=09=09Therefore the current Ext2 file system driver does <em>not</em>
fit for installations which require restrictive rights policies. It
should be sufficient for your computer at home, which is used by one or
a few users only. Furthermore, you should create drive letters for a
root volume of a Linux installation only if you know exactly what you
are doing."</p>Jim<br><br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3/20=
/07, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Joshua Gardner</b> <<a href=3D"mailto=
:mellowcellofellow at gmail.com">mellowcellofellow at gmail.com</a>> wrote:</s=
pan>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Actually, if you =
want good interoperability, make /home ext3 and install the ext3 driver for=
windows. I don't have XP here so I sort of forgot that that was an opt=
ion. So, partitioning could look like this:
<br><br> &=
nbsp; NTFS WinXP partition, Ext3 Xubuntu / partition, Ext=
2 Xubuntu /home partititon (put this as Documents and Settings in WinXP som=
ehow), swap partition.
<br><br>-Josh<div><span class=3D"e" id=3D"q_11170e97ccea3c42_1"><br><br><di=
v><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3/20/07, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Ada=
m Miller</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:maxamillion at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
maxamillion at gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
You can read them, but not write to them .... you are actually able to writ=
e to them with the help of a third party library but I can't vouch for =
its stability.<br><span><br>-Adam</span><div><span>
<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3/20/07,=20
<b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Jo=E3o Santiago</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:exa=
lowprofile at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLin=
k(window,event,this)">exalowprofile at gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204=
); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
win ntfs, /home (why not ext3?), Xu ext3, swap  =
; I have another HD with lots of stuff but its NTFS, can i read those files=
from Xu?<div><span><br><br>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3/19/07, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">=
Joshua Gardner</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:mellowcellofellow at gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">mello=
wcellofellow at gmail.com
</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">In that setup, ma=
ke /home a FAT32 FS, and you forgot xubuntu swap.<br><br>Josh=20
<div><span><br><br>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3/19/07, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">=
Jo=E3o Santiago</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:exalowprofile at gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">exalow=
profile at gmail.com=20
</a>> wrote:</span>=20
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">What do you think=
about this scheme: Windows NTFS, /home partition, xubuntu Ext3 <br><br>btw=
: Ubuntu can't write to NTFS partitions right? but it can read them, do=
es that mean that i can, for instance, open, from within xubuntu, a m=
ovie file located in the NTFS partition?=20
<div><span><br><br>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3/19/07, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">=
Vincent</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:imnotb at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" oncli=
ck=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> imnotb at gmail.com</a>&g=
t; wrote:
</span>=20
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><span><br><br>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 19/03/07, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername"=
>Daniel Bodanske</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:daengbo at gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> daengbo at gmai=
l.com
</a>> wrote:</span>=20
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">If you can wait u=
ntil next month's release, the installer will also<br>have the option o=
f installing to your windows partition, guaranteeing
<br>no data loss since the Xubuntu system will just be a disk image file<br=
>in your old partition. <br><br>Dan<br><br>On 3/19/07, Adam Miller <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:maxamillion at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return to=
p.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
maxamillion at gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Defragment your windows partit=
ion and then run the Xubuntu live cd, there is <br>> an option for parti=
tion resizing during the installation. <br>><br>> -Adam<br>><br>
> On 3/18/07, Jo=E3o Santiago <<a href=3D"mailto:exalowprofile at gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,th=
is)">exalowprofile at gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > I want to install =
XU or Ubuntu in my pc but the disk (in raid0) has only=20
<br>> one partition that occupies the hole disk.<br>> ><br>> &g=
t; I want to keep my Windows partition and Data and install Xu. How should =
i<br>> proceed to avoid data loss? (i already made a backup)<br>> >=
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