<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hello Erich, the two places you mention – #xubuntu-devel and the mailing list – are the correct places to follow changes we might be making that might also affect you. Sometimes some discussion might also slip into #xubuntu-offtopic even if it shouldn't. I guess we all should keep a closer eye on posting to the correct channel(s). Lately, as Xfce has been migrating towards GTK3, a lot discussion has also happened on #xfce-dev, so you might want to join that channel as well. There shouldn't be any Ubuntu-specific discussion as-is, but changes required from/sensible for distributions using Xfce have been discussed there as well. (I guess a few Xubuntu-specific comments might also have made there, but again our team should try to keep these in #xubuntu-devel.) Again, what you describe sounds pretty sane/comprehensive already. If you have the time and patience to go an extra mile, I welcome you to make more noise on #xubuntu-devel; we will happily work with you and help you out with any Xfce-related questions you might have. If you have any suggestions/ideas on making the Xfce defaults in the Ubuntu ecosystem better for us all, we will happily hear those as well. The Xubuntu team is relatively small as well, so replying might take some time. Most of the time we do get back to things, but if not, feel free to repeat your question. We will eventually get there... :) Cheers, Pasi <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24.5.2019 21.32, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:7b80bdec-4124-d11a-9d93-f721bdd17e84@ericheickmeyer.com"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hi all, If you don't know who I am, I'm the current leader of Ubuntu Studio. Most of you also know that our default desktop environment is Xfce, so we share a lot in common. In the past there had been at least some collaboration, but that seems to have gone away in recent years, mostly due to a lack of participation on the Ubuntu Studio end. I'm trying to figure out the best way to stay up-to-date on the default configuration and packages. The quasi-deprecation of xfce4-volumed caught us off-guard, and now, for several releases, we have a version of xfce4-volumed that does not reconnect to PulseAudio if it is restarted. Apparently, and from my own tests, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin does this much better, and the indicator-* packages should be removed from our seed. I have put forth the request to do this and have modified our panel for future releases to use the pulseaudio plugin. I guess I would like to prevent information like changes to the default panel from being missed in the future. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to do this. Perhaps somebody has some ideas on how we can accomplish this and work together. I monitor #xubuntu-devel on IRC, and I'm now subscribed to this list, but if there's any other way for me to be notified about things that affect Ubuntu Studio, such as changes to the default Xubuntu desktop (which we should mirror), let me know. Thanks, Erich --- Erich Eickmeyer Council Chair/Product Leader Ubuntu Studio ubuntustudio.org </pre> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Pasi Lallinaho (knome) › <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://open.knome.fi/">https://open.knome.fi/</a> Xubuntu Website Lead › <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://xubuntu.org/">https://xubuntu.org/</a> Xfce contributor › <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://xfce.org/">https://xfce.org/</a> Shimmer Project co-founder › <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://shimmerproject.org/">https://shimmerproject.org/</a> </pre> </body> </html>