<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail-section" id="gmail-atril">atril: MATE document viewer<br><br></div><div class="gmail-section" id="gmail-atril">From Mate page <a href="http://mate-desktop.com/">http://mate-desktop.com/</a><br></div><div class="gmail-section" id="gmail-atril"><br>Atril<br><br>Atril is a simple multi-page document viewer. It can display and print PostScript (PS), Encapsulated PostScript (EPS), DJVU, DVI, XPS and Portable Document Format (PDF) files. When supported by the document, it also allows searching for text, copying text to the clipboard, hypertext navigation, and table-of-contents bookmarks. Atril is a fork of Evince.<br><br></div><div class="gmail-section" id="gmail-atril">A priori does not seem to be an improvement.<br><br></div><div class="gmail-section" id="gmail-atril">A C Censi<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Pasi Lallinaho <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pasi@shimmerproject.org" target="_blank">pasi@shimmerproject.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">A few comments from my point of view - inline.<br> <br> On 2016-11-14 16:51, Thanos Apostolou wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> As far as I have understood, the desired effect is to keep the ISO as small as<br> possible, so some people wouldn't like it to have both software (I think that<br> the latest xubuntu release didn't even include a media player).<br> </blockquote> <br> Xubuntu was indeed shipped with a media player – Parole. No media manager was shipped, though.<br> <br> There are reasons why we won't ship two document readers (for example); at any point, the most important point is that it doesn't make sense to duplicate functionality. Size is lower down the list, especially now that we aren't close to any target size that we can't cross.<br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> So, maybe it<br> would be better if someone of the xubuntu team could create a poll at the<br> facebook page <a href="https://www.facebook.com/xubuntuusers/?fref=ts" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/xubun<wbr>tuusers/?fref=ts</a><br> Since it's just a facebook page (and not a group) I think that a facebook app<br> is needed in order to create a poll. Or maybe it's easier to create something<br> similar at the google+ and twitter pages (I don't use them so much so I have<br> no knowledge about it).<br> </blockquote> <br> I don't think a popularity poll is the right way to figure out applications the Xubuntu team should ship with the ISOs. At least I'd value a thorough technical investigation along with a broad discussion with arguments on which application is more suitable for Xubuntu more.<br> <br> That implies that discussion from the community is welcome on the subject, just not in a shouting contest kind of way (which is how polls often turn out).<br> <br> <br> Ultimately, the default applications are just good defaults – as mentioned in the thread, it's easy to install (and uninstall) software. Now the hard part is to figure out what the best application is for majority of the users (or at least the biggest subgroup if no option turns out to be the best for most).<br> <br> Has anybody else tried out Atril?<br> <br> Cheers,<br> Pasi<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br> <br> -- <br> Pasi Lallinaho (knome) › <a href="http://open.knome.fi/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://open.knome.fi/</a><br> Xubuntu Website Lead & Council member › <a href="http://xubuntu.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://xubuntu.org/</a><br> Shimmer Project co-founder › <a href="http://shimmerproject.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://shimmerproject.org/</a><br> Ubuntu member<br> <br> <br> -- <br> xubuntu-devel mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailm<wbr>an/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a><br> </font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">A. C. Censi<br>accensi [em] gmail [ponto] com<br>accensi [em] montreal [ponto] com [ponto] br<br></div> </div>