<div dir="ltr">Thanks for replying, Jack. Maybe I misunderstood what's involved with MintX. In what way is not pure Xfce? I looked at <a href="http://xfce.org">xfce.org</a> and they show a different-appearing desktop than MintX or Xubuntu.<div><br></div><div>I thought it was more a matter of default configuration, choices about application categories, making something more or less intuitive (and, whether "intuitive" is targeting a larger group, novices, etc.).</div><div><br></div><div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Jack Jr. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jacksulmail@gmail.com" target="_blank">jacksulmail@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<font color="#4D4D4D"><font size="3"> Friends,<br>
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I like Xubuntu with pure XFCE.<br>
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Xubuntu is as pure as Debian with XFCE with the advantage of
being an Ubuntu flavor<br>
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I think Xubuntu perfect the way it is<br>
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Thanks<br>
<br>
Jack Pogorelsky Junior<br>
Mechanical Engineer<br>
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<div>Em 22/08/2016 16:28, Mark F escreveu:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm a new Xubuntu user. I've been using Lubuntu for
over a year. I saw this topic in the mailing-list archives and
thought this post (questions, observations) might be welcome
here. I think it ties into marketing?
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<div>I looked at Mint Xfce and, to be honest, I like it *much*
more. The only reason I went with Xubuntu is the larger
community of support (Ubuntu's forums). I'd rather try to make
Xubuntu better than to contribute to a fork.</div>
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<div>What I'm wondering is whether you guys ever evaluate Mint
Xfce and consider evolving the desktop in that direction? Is
it ever even discussed? (Is there a way to find a past
discussion like that in the mailing-list archive?).</div>
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<div>For example:</div>
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<div>- Wisker menu progresses right to left (categories are on
right open to reveal contents on the left). Using MintX,
right-to-left stood out to me immediately as more intuitive.<br>
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<div>- Right/left clicking on taskbar entries seems
unintuitive to me. It seems like left clicks are passed
through the applet and into the underlying taskbar. (Right
clicks access the applet's options?). MintX seems to have
addressed this. It works differently. </div>
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<div>- Wisker menu's categories automatically reveal content by
mousing over each one. (No click required).</div>
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<div>- How is inclusion into Wisker's "Settings" and "System"
chosen? It's like everything is in Settings. I'm not sure I
could differentiate between those two categories. But, it
seems like no differentiation is occuring. (But, it is because
two items are in "System.").</div>
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<div>- A lot of things seem unintuitive to me. What's called
"[Distro] Software Center" in other distros is just "Software"
in Xubuntu. It's in the "Favorites" category, not in "System"
nor "Settings."</div>
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<div>- The "Software" tool seems very slow and uninformative
compared to Lubuntu's "Software Center" (And MintX's). I tried
to install Keepass2, which was available in Lubutu's software
center. It's not in Xubuntu's. </div>
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<div>- I found a Keepass package, but it made me authenticate
with my Ubuntu single-signon. It wouldn't authenticate me,
giving a repeated error (even though I can login to the
Ubuntu One site). I like the goal behind this. But, it's a
free package. I shouldn't have to go through these hurdles.
It's a *big* problem if I can't access my passwords in a new
install. </div>
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<div>- Menu bar on top. Not easy to figure out how to put it on
the bottom. Not "mainstream" if you're trying to appeal to new
users (familiar with Windows)?</div>
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<div>So, I'm just wondering (in terms of marketing, appealing to
more users), has this topic ever come up before? Evaluating
what draws people to other Xfce environments? What the others
are doing right? Why they chose to fork (and duplicate
efforts)? Would it make sense to solicit surveys (instead of
testimonials)?</div>
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<div>I hope this doesn't sound like I'm complaining. I
understand no desktop will meet everyone's needs. But, this
thread implies outreach, seeking to gain popularity. MintX
seems more popular (according to distrowatch?). I'm just
wondering if this discussion has ever occurred? (I.e., should
Xubuntu try to incorporate any of MintX's features?).</div>
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<div>Is it possible to install MintX's desktop in Xubuntu? Would
it make sense to offer that desktop more clearly (or a desktop
made specifically to be more like MintX, so people who might
choose that distro could more easily choose Xubuntu?).</div>
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<div>Again, I hope I'm not causing a problem. This topic seemed
to be about advocacy, increasing relevancy. Since I've just
been comparing Xfce desktops, the topic of "why is Xubuntu's
desktop the way it is?" seemed like a natural question. It
makes me wonder if anyone has gone back to "square one" and
questioned everything. (When I see everything lumped into
"Settings," I get the impression that discussion hasn't
occured. The desktop is just an evolution and hasn't been
re-thought from the ground up?).</div>
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<div>I look forward to reading responses. I just feel like
something is missing. Ubuntu has the support and immediacy of
security patches. But, Mint has the appeal to new users (IMO).
I just wonder if anyone has tried to bridge that gap. </div>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
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