<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Pasi, I apologize for the rather pessimistic tone of my original post. Despite all my evangelization efforts over the years, no person I know has "stuck with it" and become an avid Linux user. You are right. Sow the seeds of Linux widely. Who knows where it will bloom? Good luck with the campaign, Jordan <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/06/2016 04:37 AM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:8377ff32-9b7e-b78c-a943-175367699614@shimmerproject.org" type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> If you look at it from the other side of the coin, why create something that you don't want to spread to as many people as possible? Cheers, Pasi <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-08-06 03:13, JMZ wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:11ceed7d-8933-ef2d-13d9-cd7bd5195f60@gmail.com" type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> Pardon my confusion, but why market something that's not for sale? I've been using desktop Linux for quite some time, and I would never, ever return to Windows for personal use (I fix MS machines frequently though). I love the amazing flexibility of bash, and the open platform for xfce among other environments. Desktop Linux has a low single digit adoption rate because the vast majority of critical system functions can't be performed from within the gui. If someone is unwilling to use bash or another shell, he or she will probably get frustrated and go to Windows or OSX. The cli is holding Linux back from wider adoption, but there's no way around learning and using commands. Jordan <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/05/2016 08:04 AM, Sean Davis wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CACWZUoY_55sVxHixBKy0M6x3Oj2Hmj4rbrvgH4fQVuiWSa2C0w@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> This sounds like a good idea to me. If there's any way we can simplify the process (copy and paste template, online submission form, etc) I feel like that would improve the quality and quantity of submissions. <div class="gmail_quote"> <div dir="ltr">On Mon, Aug 1, 2016, 5:24 PM Pasi Lallinaho <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:pasi@shimmerproject.org">pasi@shimmerproject.org</a>> wrote: </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello team, especially during the #LoveXubuntu campaign we've got quite a bunch of "thanks" from our users. These include stories about how Xubuntu has made the users' computing experience better, good arguments for why Xubuntu is the best OS for them (and potentially others) etc. Currently, we are officially only gathering submissions for the #LoveXubuntu contest, but some of these mails has left me thinking we could gather some of these "testimonials" for potential marketing purposes in the future. Use cases that I can imagine from the top of my head include the Xubuntu flyer, our website and more. My proposal (in a very early idea stage) is that in addition to specific contest and campaigns, we could use the Xubuntu-contacts mailing list for gathering these "testimonials" and thanks. This would need some kind of organization: 1) Create a page that describes what we are looking, with instructions (see further points) 2) Require the submissions to have a certain tag at the beginning of the subject This helps us when we seek for any content in the mailing list archive. 3) Require the submitter to agree that we can use their content however we want (either by licensing, or a generic permission) We likely need the users to send this approval with their submission on the mailing list. To do this, we can instruct them to specify which license they want to use, or use any kind of general permission text. At this point, I would say we shouldn't approve content which license or terms isn't specified (clearly enough) on the mail. What do you think? At the same time, I want to remind that anybody in the team who wishes to read the mailing list archive can simply ask to get subscribed. The list has been very light in traffic so far, so no extra hands are required for moderation at this point. Cheers, Pasi -- Pasi Lallinaho (knome) › <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://open.knome.fi/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://open.knome.fi/</a> Leader of Shimmer Project › <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://shimmerproject.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://shimmerproject.org/</a> Xubuntu Website Lead › <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://xubuntu.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://xubuntu.org/</a> -- xubuntu-devel mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote> </div> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> </blockquote> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Pasi Lallinaho (knome) › <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://open.knome.fi/">http://open.knome.fi/</a> Leader of Shimmer Project › <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://shimmerproject.org/">http://shimmerproject.org/</a> Xubuntu Website Lead › <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://xubuntu.org/">http://xubuntu.org/</a></pre> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> </blockquote> </body> </html>