<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-05-10 19:09, Richard Elkins wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:573207BF.3020802@gmail.com" type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> Pasi, I know that lsb is not maintained by Xubuntu; it was part of the Ubuntu core up until 15.10. I wrote to this list because I am a Xubuntu user and I was once active as a tester. Aren't we at all concerned that users who have Epson printers might be leaving Xubuntu, Lubuntu, etc.? I had to convert someone's laptop to Linux Mint Debian edition just to get that individual reconnected back to an Epson printer. The various *buntu release notes could have warned Epson printer users that they should consider finding a new distro which includes the lsb packages. This was a total surprise for Epson customers. </blockquote> Yes, but most of do not have the time to actively keep on top of the issue. Which is why every package has their dedicated maintainer... To be honest, if every change in the distribution that could in any way affect any users (pretty much all changes) were listed in the release notes, they would be a useless wall of text. I don't have an alternative suggestion either, but do you seriously think anybody would advice anybody to choose another distribution in their release notes? <blockquote cite="mid:573207BF.3020802@gmail.com" type="cite"> Yes, it is possible that the reason a package is removed from the repositories is because it wouldn't work with other package versions in the release and still meet the release date requirement. Someone could have explained that. </blockquote> The Xubuntu team had no idea this was being done as we do not follow specific packages that can affect specific hardware, unless they are affecting some of the "core" packages or functionality in Xubuntu itself. <blockquote cite="mid:573207BF.3020802@gmail.com" type="cite"> I am not affected because the printer-driver-escpr package is a good enough solution for my Epson XP-410 and the way I use it. However, if this issue is not addressed, then I'll try to find time to explore lsb myself but this is difficult given my personal time being donated elsewhere for the last 2 years. </blockquote> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-05-10 22:39, Richard Elkins wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:573238ED.4020802@gmail.com" type="cite"> My curiosity got the better of me. I added the lsb packages from Trusty to my 16.04 installation and it is an effective work-around; the driver from the Epson site can now install. I documented the work-around in detail in message #34 for <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/1536353"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/1536353">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/1536353</a></a>. Therefore, there seems to be no reason for excluding the lsb packages from 16.04.</blockquote> I'm happy that this solution worked for you. On the bug comments, Till implied a new distribution-independent printer driver packaging was planned - let's hope the work on that proceeds quickly so too many people won't end up with similar problems to yours. Cheers, Pasi <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Pasi Lallinaho (knome) ť <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://open.knome.fi/">http://open.knome.fi/</a> Leader of Shimmer Project ť <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://shimmerproject.org/">http://shimmerproject.org/</a> Ubuntu member, Xubuntu Website Lead ť <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://xubuntu.org/">http://xubuntu.org/</a></pre> </body> </html>