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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29.1.2015 14:48, Elfy wrote:<br>
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            <div>The installation packages of most of these games take
              even less space on the iso, than an average wallpaper.....<br>
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              For instance: in Xubuntu 14.04, the installation package
              of AisleRiot Solitaire is only half a megabyte: 585 kB, to
              be exact. And the installation package of Minesweeper
              (gnome-mines) is only one third of a megabyte: 298 kB.<br>
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            What problem does removing them solve? :-)<br>
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      Who said there's a problem?<br>
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      The subject came up in a meeting - there were only 2 or 3 people
      there so it got taken here for more discussion.<br>
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    If there isn't a problem with having these games installed by
    default, then what is there to gain by not having them installed by
    default?<br>
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    You asked for comments on your first post. It would be helpful to
    know why this discussion has started and what is there to gain by
    having them / not having them installed by default.<br>
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    According to PK the games only take about a megabyte of space on the
    iso. So far, I haven't figured out the purpose of not shipping these
    two games by default, other than obviously saving space on the iso
    or saving resources when packaging.<br>
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    On the topic:<br>
    I would like to see 2-4 games installed by default. These games
    should be the most generic ones: minesweeper, solitaire... There
    could also be a hyperlink pointing to games-category in Software
    Center included in the games-folder in Whisker-menu. Small games are
    a great way for a beginner to start their adventures on Linux! They
    are also pretty well presented in Software Center, so installing
    them should not be a problem.<br>
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          Regards, Pjotr.<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">2015-01-29 9:36 GMT+01:00 Ivā Burgos
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                  <div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">2015-01-29
                      8:57 GMT+01:00 Elfy <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                        class=""><span>On 28/01/15 07:54, Elfy wrote:<br>
                          > Discussion started on the subject of
                          removing games from the install at<br>
                          > the last meeting, taking this to the list
                          for more comments.<br>
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                      </span><span class=""> We're not going to be
                        adding games - the question is whether to remove<br>
                        the couple we do see.<br>
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                    <div>And... why would we remove the couple games?</div>
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                        <div>Ivā.</div>
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