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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-01-29 01:40, Bruno Benitez
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I think
that the basic use of an image editor for a standard user are
the ones signaled on the tables on the comparison page [1],
Croping, Adding text, Rezise, Rotate, Navigate Folders. The
only thing a good image viewer still lacks on linux is adding
text, thats the only thing from the list that only Gimp could
bring. My case is to get rid of both Gimp and Ristretto and
leave an image viewer with basic editing capabilities like
gThumb[2] or Shotwell[3]. As stated by many before anyone who
would need more can get any of the available image editors in
the repositories. If what we are looking is to give a tool so
anyone can rapidly start drawing on a xubuntu install, there
are simplier yet powerful tools like MyPaint[4] and Krita[5]
that could also be considered.<br>
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The list of standard features that are mentioned on the wiki are
still valid.<br>
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After moving Ristretto in and out (and lastly, in) and messing
around with gThumb, I'm pretty sure we've "figured out" our image
viewer needs; we should keep Ristretto for now and focus on the
image editors. If we change the image editor, maybe the image viewer
issue can be brought up again after that.<br>
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I've used MyPaint myself, but I don't really consider it a fair
replacement for GIMP. You can create fancy looking stuff with it,
but it's clearly geared towards digital painting, not image editing.<br>
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Krita is KDE/Qt, so that makes it pretty much out of question.<br>
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[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Oneiric/DefaultImageEditor">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Oneiric/DefaultImageEditor</a><br>
[2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/gthumb">http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/gthumb</a><br>
[3] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/shotwell">http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/shotwell</a><br>
[4] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/mypaint">http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/mypaint</a><br>
[5] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/krita">http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/krita</a><br>
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Bermúdez Guiot <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div dir="ltr">OK, first of all, sorry for the shortness of
my contribution. Allow me to explain a bit.<br>
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We are thinking about standard on the go users who run
Xubuntu Live, I think GiMP is a great tool for editing
and creating photo projects. But games, lets be truly
sinceres, we dont run it live to play, am I right? So
thats why Im thinking we use GiMP and LibreOffice, someone
pointed that Abiword is quite buggy and it is indeed.
GNUmeric is a good tool but comparing vs LO Calc, it
loses. Sorry for the english, not my native language. Have
a great day.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2015-01-28 16:54 GMT-06:00 Eero
Tamminen <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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On torstai 29 tammikuu 2015, David Bermúdez
Guiot wrote:<br>
> Gimp should still be shipped, however I
don't think games should be<br>
> installed.<br>
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</span>Why? What's your reasoning?<br>
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Btw. Is it possible to have Software Center front
page seeded with things<br>
that people may want to install first (things like
LO, Gimp, etc)?<br>
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> Since we are discussing about other choices
in the default seed already,<br>
> it feels like the perfect time to bring yet
another discussion to the<br>
> table:<br>
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> Do we want to keep shipping GIMP?<br>
><br>
> For some background, the team has discussed
the issue [1] and gone<br>
> through various simpler alternatives [2]
for GIMP a few times* in the<br>
> past, but no suitable candidate was found.<br>
><br>
> Do we think there is a suitable, light and
easy-to-use alternative for<br>
> GIMP now? Should we simply drop GIMP
altogether and not replace it?<br>
><br>
> Discuss.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Pasi<br>
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> [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-July/007864.html"
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> [2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Oneiric/"
target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Oneiric/</a><br>
> DefaultImageEditor<br>
> * Most of this isn't archived in an
easy-to-access way<br>
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Pasi Lallinaho (knome) » <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://open.knome.fi/">http://open.knome.fi/</a>
Leader of Shimmer Project » <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://shimmerproject.org/">http://shimmerproject.org/</a>
Ubuntu member, Xubuntu Website Lead » <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://xubuntu.org/">http://xubuntu.org/</a></pre>
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