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What is the premium for the games? I don't know off the top of my
head how much space they take up, but the VM install of Xubuntu
14.04 I'm looking at right now only came with Mines and Sudoku, I
can't imagine those are much larger than a few MBs. That's a very
small impact on the size of the ISO and is such a cheap feature that
adds the appearance of a lot of value to new users, or people who
feel intimidated by the OS. If I were in a situation where I was not
familiar with computer systems at all, and somebody switched me to
Xubuntu, the very first thing I would be doing was trying to find
something I was familiar with, in order to connect on some level
with it. Simple games give an easy outlet to beginners to learn how
to navigate. Relying on browser games is similar to pushing people
to escape what Linux is providing them, rather than learning to feel
comfortable with it.<br>
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I'm for keeping the games.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/28/2015 8:43 AM, Ince, Wilbur
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Advanced users will not miss them, because they will
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NEW users are the prize target here. Not including them
makes the distro seem cheap and flimsy as was pointed
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Is there a way to include them in the install script so
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Is there a way to add Install links to the Games menu so
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The idea is take them out, but include something so folks can
find and install them easily. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Lutz
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