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I'd love to trade in my Samsun Galaxy S-III phone for one which
operates without those bloody commercials! So, I have a vested
interest in Unity succeeding on a wide variety of tablet and phone
hardware. The current supported hardware population is clearly
insufficient.<br>
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My predictions:<br>
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<li>Unity will die off on the desktops and laptops that employ a
keyboard and mouse or touchpad; the other *buntu desktops (E.g.
Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Gnome, KDE) will gradually take up the slack.
Xubuntu on X.org or Wayland will thrive!<br>
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<li>Unity will make a go of it on tablets and phones although
there is nothing yet available for the ordinary user; time will
tell HOW well and best wishes.</li>
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Richard (been absent as I have been busy in other projects)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/20/2014 03:14 PM, Peter Rauhut
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convergence of the two may limit the ability of design and
development to a point where useful features may be blocked due
to how they would affect other types of devices. <br>
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One of my biggest criticisms of Windows 8 and Unity have been
that they force the desktop users into a touchscreen friendly
environment. This type of design decision makes sense for
tablets and phones because that is their primary input device.
For a laptop/desktop, however, it is not as easy to use or as
intuitive when your primary inputs are a keyboard and mouse. <br>
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For the use case you mention, though, where you use your phone
to control what your computer is showing on a big screen, that
would be accomplished with an adapter of some sort, think
Chromecast. Where your phone makes a call to the computer and
the computer is listening for it and receives the instruction.
Convergence isn't necessary for this to occur. This would be
accomplished by another app. I would think that feature would be
ideal for MythBuntu, if it doesn't already exist.<br>
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DiceGeorge wrote:<br>
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<div>But as phones get more powerful wont it become more
common to connect them to big screen and keyboard somehow
(maybe via usb to a pc) and then control the phone
software with mouse keyboard and big display? And
conversely I want to control my desktop computer to play
movies on a big screen via my phone when I’m in bed. This
could be an argument for convergence.</div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 20 August, 2014 15:56</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: Feedback on desktop
convergence changes</div>
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face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Even if we remove
the concern about where Unity will go, convergence of
Phone/Tablet and Desktop code means that all changes
that are made for the phone/tablet must take the Desktop
into account and vice-verse. Phones and tablets are
essentially used in the same way and making design and
technical decisions for those type of environments to
match is fine. <br>
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However, desktop environments are used in a very
different way. The decisions that are made for a desktop
environment should not be limited by how it will affect
a phone/tablet. My opinion is that these two different
things should remain separate.<br>
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<pre wrap="">On 19 August 2014 22:19, Michael Hall <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mhall119@ubuntu.com">mailto:mhall119@ubuntu.com</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">The appearance of Unity on the desktop should remain functionally the
same (it'll get a visual update though). It will still function as a
desktop, the way Unity 7 does today.
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<pre wrap="">I think the concern here is that the converged applications will be as
bad as Unity, and not that Unity itself will get any worse.
This does not affect Xubuntu however as we only use a couple of Ubuntu
applications which could easily be replaced if they go south.
A much bigger question is whether Xorg will continue to receive the
same level of maintenance as it does now, since there is very little
chance Xfce will be ported to Wayland at any time in the next two
years. (Since it would require a total rewrite and either the removal
of several features or a massive effort to reimplement the missing
required APIs in a cross-desktop way.)
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Alistair Buxton
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