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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">My point was that
convergence of the two may limit the ability of design and
development to a point where useful features may be blocked due to
how they would affect other types of devices. <br>
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One of my biggest criticisms of Windows 8 and Unity have been that
they force the desktop users into a touchscreen friendly
environment. This type of design decision makes sense for tablets
and phones because that is their primary input device. For a
laptop/desktop, however, it is not as easy to use or as intuitive
when your primary inputs are a keyboard and mouse. <br>
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For the use case you mention, though, where you use your phone to
control what your computer is showing on a big screen, that would
be accomplished with an adapter of some sort, think Chromecast.
Where your phone makes a call to the computer and the computer is
listening for it and receives the instruction. Convergence isn't
necessary for this to occur. This would be accomplished by another
app. I would think that feature would be ideal for MythBuntu, if
it doesn't already exist.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/20/14, 3:03 PM, George DiceGeorge
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<div>But as phones get more powerful wont it become more
common to connect them to big screen and keyboard somehow
(maybe via usb to a pc) and then control the phone software
with mouse keyboard and big display? And conversely I want
to control my desktop computer to play movies on a big
screen via my phone when I’m in bed. This could be an
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 20 August, 2014 15:56</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: Feedback on desktop convergence
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face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Even if we remove the
concern about where Unity will go, convergence of
Phone/Tablet and Desktop code means that all changes that
are made for the phone/tablet must take the Desktop into
account and vice-verse. Phones and tablets are essentially
used in the same way and making design and technical
decisions for those type of environments to match is fine.
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However, desktop environments are used in a very different
way. The decisions that are made for a desktop environment
should not be limited by how it will affect a
phone/tablet. My opinion is that these two different
things should remain separate.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/20/14, 9:01 AM, Alistair
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<pre wrap="">On 19 August 2014 22:19, Michael Hall <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mhall119@ubuntu.com">mailto:mhall119@ubuntu.com</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">The appearance of Unity on the desktop should remain functionally the
same (it'll get a visual update though). It will still function as a
desktop, the way Unity 7 does today.
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<pre wrap="">I think the concern here is that the converged applications will be as
bad as Unity, and not that Unity itself will get any worse.
This does not affect Xubuntu however as we only use a couple of Ubuntu
applications which could easily be replaced if they go south.
A much bigger question is whether Xorg will continue to receive the
same level of maintenance as it does now, since there is very little
chance Xfce will be ported to Wayland at any time in the next two
years. (Since it would require a total rewrite and either the removal
of several features or a massive effort to reimplement the missing
required APIs in a cross-desktop way.)
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